Thread: Firearms of choice

that dropped magazine feature has also got a few people killed from what ive read,but dont know for a fact

Originally Posted by Mike_ratliff

I have several pistols with internal locks, although not a smith...
I've found the same to be true for all of them, In an emergency the key is too small, that locking mechanism for all it's good intentions will only get you killed.

Now my smith has a mechanism that renders the gun unfirable when the magazine is dropped, that is as good as any lock to temporarily disable a gun and prevent accidental firings... and in an emergency all you have to do is re-insert the clip.

Gun control is not a matter of legislation, but education... well that and nice tight groups.

Originally Posted by honedright

While on this topic, I'm just curious what you all think about Smith and Wesson internal locks?? Kind of a hot topic on some of the gun forums.

I've had to deal with the issue myself lately. Interested to know others opinions.

Scott

I won't say that I like them, especially if I was the type to buy Scandium guns or hyper lightweight guns. They've had a few reported lock ups while firing but . . .

I do have an airweight .38 and it keeps gravitating toward my "always" gun. Its simply the best gun I've ever had for every application.

I like having the ability to lock the gun. I think the extra measure of safety helps with my peace of mind.

If the gun is loaded but not in my immediate control, I can lock it. Its not a safety measure that I need, but it gives me peace of mind. Its an extra step in safety that I find very convienent. If I'm leaving suddenly I can unlock it and its ready to rock. Complete safety or complete action at the twist of a key that only I have.

You have to get into the habit of unlocking it before you holster it though.

But that is the only gun I have a lock on, but I really like that gun and one of the reasons is because I can lock it.

All the others have to stay unloaded and locked and are hard to get to, even for me (from a "Honey, lets leave right now so I can go shopping" point of view).

.50 cal St. Louis style full stock Hawken flintlock. I prefer to load from the front.

I would never carry a weapon with a "safety" feature like an internal lock or a magazine safety. if I pull the trigger, I want the gun to fire, every time, without fail. if I DON'T want it to fire, I won't pull the trigger. sounds pretty safe to me.

a gun is a complicated mechanical system, I see no reason to make it more complicated for no good reason and introduce additional failure vectors to the system.

Ahhh firearms. I'll tell you what is NOT a good firearm. Anything from Savage Arms. I had to use their cheap model .30-06 to teach boy scouts how to reload and shoot and they were the biggest piece of crap I've ever shot in my life. The safety trigger, great idea, horribly implemented. There was SO much slop in the action I'm surprised the thing stayed together when you shot. On the other hand, we had 2 12yr old Model 500 .30-06 and those puppies shot EXCELLENT, even though they've each had something like 12,000+ rounds shot through them.

Nothing says fun like a good old Colt M1911 or the newer M1991A1 .45.

And can one seriously beat the joy of a Ruger Mini-14 in .223 with a 30 round clip?

As far as shotgungs, the Ruger Red Line/Label, we use them at camp, an over/under design. Beautiful firearm, shoots excellent as well.

Ron

Originally Posted by honedright

While on this topic, I'm just curious what you all think about Smith and Wesson internal locks?? Kind of a hot topic on some of the gun forums.

I've had to deal with the issue myself lately. Interested to know others opinions.



Scott

Theres a reason my only Smith is a hand-me-down plinker not a piece for protection.

Actually that reason is the magazine interlock, Now that they have a key lock on them thats just one more reason not to buy them for me.

But what do I know, my carry gun was built before I was born and doesn't even have a firing pin retention spring let alone a key lock.

Originally Posted by bbshriver

I carry a Springfield Armory 1911 Compact (aluminum officer's size frame, 4" barrel 45ACP) with laser grips, night sights, in a Milst Sparks VMII holster
Or, if i'm in light clothing a Kel-Tec P32.. better than nothing I figure.

I like the 1911 as well I carry an older colt in the winter. The Kel-Tec is nothing to be ashamed of. I bought a P3AT last fall and carry it all the time. The colt is hard to hide without printing and heavy. The little Kel-Tec fits behind my wallet and is light. Also not too expensive. Like you said better than nothing and the colt isn't going to do any good in the safe which is where it is most of the time.

Don

Originally Posted by junkinduck

I like the 1911 as well I carry an older colt in the winter. The Kel-Tec is nothing to be ashamed of. I bought a P3AT last fall and carry it all the time. The colt is hard to hide without printing and heavy. The little Kel-Tec fits behind my wallet and is light. Also not too expensive. Like you said better than nothing and the colt isn't going to do any good in the safe which is where it is most of the time.

Don

Behind your wallet? Whoa

Yes I carry a thin wallet and an inside the pocket holster. this works well for me, The Kel-Tec is about 3/4" thick. When I sit I can easily palm the pistol holster and all and slide it in my front pocket. It just requires a smooth hand. In the car I put it in the console for easier access.

Don

Originally Posted by speed_pigeon

nice mike. i'm really thinking about picking up a Magnum Research BFR .50! that thing it just evil! i like the S&W .50 too. and of course i love the MR DE .50. but that's more of a novelty piece as far as i'm concerned.

Novelty? You bet! I have DE .50AE in a bible box with two magazines, sitting on a speaker in my bedroom - makes the biggest bang and flame I have ever seen...and at about 1.50 a bullet, you know you been shooting with these things - taken Thunder ranch classes using every weapon I own - but not that one, Clint would laugh me off the range. But no one thinks to look in the bible box...

In the corner I have a Wilson Combat Border Patrol tricked out Remington 1187 semi-auto 12 gauge and a Wilson Combat CQB in the nightstand. In the sock drawer I have a 686 Smith .357 stainless (with +P+ loads - pistol and gift form bailiff at courthouse) - my wife has a Sig Sauer 226 9mm with Black Talons in her nightstand -

Downstairs, I have 2 Steyr MA1 .40 cal pistols near front and back door and an urban camo striped DSA FN-FAL .308 carbine - in easy reach-.

That is not even talking about the safe...

Now in the car....

Well hell, this *is* Texas! You want to storm *my* castle?

K