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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    I have always found that the solution to this type of discussion is to forget politics and countries and ask the hard question...

    If somebody comes into your home on your soil with the intent to do harm to you or yours, do you do everything in the realm of possibilities to protect your family or do you worry about the law????

    Makes it real simple doesn't it ???

    Oh and one other thing please quit refering to Detriot as the Big 3, only 2 are failing, and got a bail out... Ford stands alone as of right now !!!!!
    In that scenario, the Gitmo response would be to take the intruder, tie him up and lock him in the basement for an unspecified period of time with no real intent on ever calling the police....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    I have always found that the solution to this type of discussion is to forget politics and countries and ask the hard question...

    If somebody comes into your home on your soil with the intent to do harm to you or yours, do you do everything in the realm of possibilities to protect your family or do you worry about the law????

    Actually what we have been doing is more like going to a neighbor's house and taking his cousin who was accused (by parties unknown) of saying something nasty about us behind our backs and locking him indefinitely in a dog kennel on anther block because we are afraid that one day he may decide to come to our house and throw a rock through our window.

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    The problem I had with the original article is that it makes a completely false description of the President's intentions. Obama has never advocated nationalization of any industry. It was, in fact, Bush who started this process. This is typical right-wing debate tactics. They create a straw man, claiming all sorts of false intentions on the part of their opponents, and then use that to denigrate them. It's kind of like progressives campaigning against conservatives by claiming that they'll take people who disagree with them, load them on boxcars and put them in camps. Very inflammatory argument, but hardly true.

    The article recites one of the more recent conservative themes -- the completely ridiculous notion that the New Deal actually prolonged the Great Depression. These right wing apparatchiks are nothing if not on-message.

    The right wing folks really hate it that Obama didn't run from the far left. Right now, they feel the need to portray him that way, because they can't accept the idea that they've gotten their butts kicked for good reason. But their recent rhetoric, in which they express their intentions to block anything the Democrats try to do, is troubling. Their efforts to portray Obama's efforts to save the economy as "socialism" should be seen as what they are: a desperate effort on the part of adherents of a rejected ideology to turn the tide of their richly-deserved defeat.

    If you want to know what Obama's intentions are, listen to Obama, not his opponents.

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    The director of operations for al Qaida in Yemen is a former Gitmo visitor who was released.

    Watch your big picture window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilowattkid View Post
    The director of operations for al Qaida in Yemen is a former Gitmo visitor who was released.

    Watch your big picture window.
    Yes, the big picture. Who helped Saddam arm his armies in the first place?
    YouTube - Rumsfeld & Saddam Make Nice


    Donald Rumsfeld doing the bidding of Reagan.

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    Repubicans lost the election because they put a RINO in the race. And I didn't see it as a landslide victory, so I wouldn't say it was a butt kicking.
    I have listened to the new administrations ideas on policy, and I don't like them. For instance the employye fairness act supported by Obama as stated by him. No more secret ballots for a union vote? Come on! That is an open invitation for bullying for votes. And they have already passed the Ledbetter act. These go against my beliefs in business practices, so I can clearly say thus far I do not like his policies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    Donald Rumsfeld doing the bidding of Reagan.
    Yup. We also helped in Afghanistan against the Russians.

    When you spill milk, you got to clean it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilowattkid View Post
    Yup. We also helped in Afghanistan against the Russians.

    When you spill milk, you got to clean it up.
    True enough.

    But can you cry over spilled milk?

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    No sense in crying. We use sraight razors. We don't even cry when we put Clubman on a fresh nick in our chins.

    I've got to go to work now, my tax dollars are needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilowattkid View Post
    No sense in crying. We use sraight razors. We don't even cry when we put Clubman on a fresh nick in our chins.

    I've got to go to work now, my tax dollars are needed.
    If waterboarding proves innefective during interrogations, they usually resort to putting a nick in the alleged terrorist's chin and apply the Clubman in a liberal fashion....

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