Thread: Ammo Shortage

I am an avid reloader and have dies and components to reload every caliber I shoot and have noticed reloading supplies are little by little getting back on the shelves again. Certain components [Primers, Powder] and certain brands of such are still in short supply but are starting to show up on the shelves.

I live in a right to carry state and feel safer in public. I don't have a permit and don't feel the need for one at this time. A bad guy has to think twice about starting to spray bullets in a McDonald's around here.

bj

Originally Posted by 2Sharp

have noticed reloading supplies are little by little getting back on the shelves again. Certain components [Primers, Powder] and certain brands of such are still in short supply but are starting to show up on the shelves.

I live in a right to carry state and feel safer in public. I don't have a permit and don't feel the need for one at this time. A bad guy has to think twice about starting to spray bullets in a McDonald's around here.

bj

they're coming back around Orlando too
one place lost my business the other day when they tried to charge me $9 a hundred for large rifle primers
nothing fancy either
just CCI magnum large rifle

people still seem to be pretty liberal with their public shooting here
no doubt due to the higher density of "minorities"

Originally Posted by Elliette

I noticed this when I picked up my gun recently. The ammo display was devoid o'bullets.

Frankly, as an NRA member, I think the who "Obama'z cummin' fer our gunz" hysteria is a load o'hooey. He's off doing other things. I do not appreciate the manufactured fear promulgated in the 2nd Amendment Magazine and by Wayne LaPierre.

The other thing which concerns me is the idea of all the ammo being in the hands of nervous people!

You could not be more correct and this hysteria is the reason I left my job at Impact Guns in SLC Utah.

What is happening is the manufacturers had prices real high because commodities at the time where very high, then commodities dropped when the markets took a dive. So they create this BS hysteria about Obama so they can still sell MASSIVE amounts of ammo without lowering prices even though they are now paying very little for copper compared to a year ago. They are getting people to stock up on ammo when ammo is more expensive than ever before. The same thing with "assault weapons" theres no ban coming they don't have the political will in congress to do it. Everyone remembers how many people got voted out after the Brady Bill. The gun store owners and manufacturers are simply propagating hysteria to get around this recession, and they are REAMING good hardworking people. It makes me SICK!

Originally Posted by gratewhitehuntr

...people still seem to be pretty liberal with their public shooting here
no doubt due to the higher density of "minorities"

Do you want to clarify that for me? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

It's the evil generic leftist brain waves man! they all want to take away my ammoz! - Recap of post. Hmm I don't think this post portrays anything but a generalisation of how you view others

This is quite funny, as it was left with negative rep for me......

Originally Posted by joesixpack

Do you want to clarify that for me? I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

I don't care to make controversial statements that would open me to charges of trolling

why don't you look murder rates in major metropolitan areas and compare the rate of violent crime to the race statistics

or you could just go work in the hood for a while

I have considerable empirical data on this subject which precludes me from allegations of trolling

I would encourage you to look at such places as
Flint, Michigan (MI) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, move, moving, houses news, sex offenders

and
Ann Arbor, Michigan (MI) Detailed Profile - relocation, real estate, travel, jobs, hospitals, schools, crime, move, moving, houses news, sex offenders

these two cities have very similar populations, locations, and many other factors
these are also numbers of a completely non political sort

KEEP IN MIND
these numbers are actual murders and not calls to service or complaints of shots fired
this doesn't even scratch the surface of the amount of shooting that really happens (the real topic)
I've counted over 100 rounds in one 8 hour shift on more than one night
I've also seen/heard drivebys in which the rate of fire was fast enough to prevent counting rounds
ie. multiple shooters simultaneously

Originally Posted by jockeys

yeah, there's definitely no precedent for a democrat president making life difficult for gun owners.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

except there is.

The Clinton AWB was disastrous for the Democrats....they lost seats in the house and senate purely because of the ban. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have come out AGAINST reinstating the AWB, or creating a new one. (btw, Harry Reid voted against the original AWB in 1994)

Obama supported a new AWB as a senator from Illinois, but now, as president of the united states, appears to have changed his position, opposing a new AWB and instead favoring better law enforcement strategies to curb inner city violence. Obama Won’t Reinstate Assault Weapons Ban | Politicususa.com

It should also be noted that Obama supported allowing concealed pistols in Washington DC, and DEFENDED Bush's policy, allowing guns in National Parks.... Obama Defends Bush Rule on Permitting Guns in National Parks - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

The hysteria concerning gun rights coming from the ultra-right is just that, hysteria. Since Obama has become president, his record on gun rights has been very libertarian (as it should be).

I listen to Michael Savage, G. Gordon Liddy, Gun Talk and *cringe* even Rush at times.....all these guys do is claim that there is some "hidden agenda"....they ignore his voting record (since becoming president) or what he's said he would do and claim that "any moment now they're coming for your guns/ammo"....it's simply not true. Even if they did want to ban certain guns/ammo, Obama and the Dems know it's a losing battle.

Often people will point to statements or votes he made years ago when he was a junior Senator from Illinois....mainly these votes revolved around giving states and local municipalities the freedom to determine their own gun regulations. You could make the argument that this is constitutionally sound (seperation of state and federal powers)....I don't really agree with this because the 2nd Amendment clearly enumerates the right to bear arms in the FEDERAL Constitution....

But remember that he was REPRESENTING ILLINOIS, at a time when there was a HUGE violence problem in Chicago.....this is a whole different ballgame than representing the entire United States. I think Obama understands this, and that's why his position on this issue has become much more libertarian.

Anyway, point and case...until he actually proposes legislation or starts making scary statements, lay off the guy. Just my $0.02 =)

Although I think many Dems have a woody for gun control, I don't think Obama does.
At least not now.

Even if he did, he doesn't (nor do any of them right now) have the political clout to make it happen.

This has only highlighted the factionalization (is that a word?)
of the conservatives.

The Libertarians have no place else to go and by falling in with Conservatives they further the stereotype.
Same with the Jesus Freaks (not that there is anything wrong with Jesus) and GunNUTS, and some others that only serve to dilute the message.
Or worse yet they open the party (movement?) to attack.

BTW, when I say Libertarians I mean the freaks, not decent people.
Militia sorts would be a prime example.

Maybe I understand politics better, but I was fairly embarrassed to see some rather sober, respectable, intelligent people just slobbering all over ammunition.

I have to say that this has lessened my respect for .... I'll just say NON LEFT because you can hardly pick just one group.
What sort of people are THIS panicky?
I thought we were supposed to be the party of reason?

Originally Posted by jdurango

Anyway, point and case...until he actually proposes legislation or starts making scary statements, lay off the guy. Just my $0.02 =)

I never said he would, I said there's precedent, and there is. at this point, I'd say it's a toss up. some of the dems want it to come back (feinstein, boxer, etc) some seem to want to avoid the issue.

also, as a registered Libertarian, i'm going to take issue with you describing obama's stance as such, it's not at all, he's merely avoiding the issue. he may or may not keep avoiding the issue, and i hope he does, but avoiding the issue is NOT the Libertarian stance.