Thread: Slept through 55 tattoos???? - The plot thickens

is there video of the STFU?

link please????

Sorry this was creative freedom on my part he did not use those exact words.
He did however say in public that 'he asked his client to refrain from making public comments or appearing in the popular media until they had the chance prepare an official statement'

I interpreted this as 'keep your mouth shut, you stupid ****' which was probably correct after she let herself be fooled by the reporter and admitted that she liked the tattoo but that her daddy didn't.

To those upset at the tatoo artist:


#1 The girl is 18 right? So he is well within reason to do as she asks him to as a paying customer.

#2 Even if she is 18, she also happened to show up WITH HER FATHER. So, doesn't it make sense that he is also therefore given the double green light to go ahead with the planned tattoo? A consenting adult accompanied by her rightful gaurdian, her father, why would there be any reason for him not to do it?

It's his business, his living. The sign on the door says "TATTOOS", and one look at the guy clearly shows what he is there to do. Caveat emptor. There is no real fault that lies with the tattoo artist in this case.

Originally Posted by Seraphim

It's his business, his living. The sign on the door says "TATTOOS", and one look at the guy clearly shows what he is there to do. Caveat emptor. There is no real fault that lies with the tattoo artist in this case.

+1

the girl is 99% guilty here...

the artist is 1% just because he dont have a form saying they agree to the tattoo...

is HIS words against hers...i glad she was caught on the lie!

Originally Posted by pio

+1

the girl is 99% guilty here...

the artist is 1% just because he dont have a form saying they agree to the tattoo...

is HIS words against hers...i glad she was caught on the lie!

Being a pro tattooer I disagree. We have laws against contributing to the delinquency of a minor. We have laws that demand that until a person is of a specific age they cannot drink, drive, own a firearm, vote, or get a tattoo. This is based on the assumption that the youth doesn't have the life experience to make a responsible decision on their own yet. As a professional I feel I have the responsibility to look out for the customer who may be making a decision that will negatively effect them for the rest of their lives.

That "artist" knows from his own experience the social consequences of having facial tattoos and IMO should take that into consideration when someone comes to him for that sort of thing. I have young folks coming in and wanting "rebel" flags tattooed. I always tell them that the US armed forces consider them a "hate" tattoo and will not let you in the service until the tattoo is covered up or removed. Did this guy tell that kid that she was making a decision that would severely limit her employment opportunities and social interactions ? It ain't all on the kid AFAIC.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Being a pro tattooer I disagree. We have laws against contributing to the delinquency of a minor. We have laws that demand that until a person is of a specific age they cannot drink, drive, own a firearm, vote, or get a tattoo. This is based on the assumption that the youth doesn't have the life experience to make a responsible decision on their own yet. As a professional I feel I have the responsibility to look out for the customer who may be making a decision that will negatively effect them for the rest of their lives.

That "artist" knows from his own experience the social consequences of having facial tattoos and IMO should take that into consideration when someone comes to him for that sort of thing. I have young folks coming in and wanting "rebel" flags tattooed. I always tell them that the US armed forces consider them a "hate" tattoo and will not let you in the service until the tattoo is covered up or removed. Did this guy tell that kid that she was making a decision that would severely limit her employment opportunities and social interactions ? It ain't all on the kid AFAIC.

good point...
but this was not in the states...
and she is 18...
not a minor (unless you are in the states where 18 is too young to drink, but not too young to kill at war...)

Originally Posted by jockeys

all the blame lies squarely on the girl. advocating violence against a tattoo artist who did his job (and pretty well, from the pix) is horrific.

I didn't mean to offend your tender sensibilities. I do find it surprising that a guy who advocates killing hippies here would find the suggestion that the tattooist deserved an azzwhipping hurtful. Spoken by an old guy who was a hippie in his younger days.

I guess as in all trades there are thse and there are others.
Its honorable and might pay off in the long run, to coach your customers well, but you won't find that everywhere.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

...That "artist" knows from his own experience the social consequences of having facial tattoos and IMO should take that into consideration when someone comes to him for that sort of thing. ...Did this guy tell that kid that she was making a decision that would severely limit her employment opportunities and social interactions ? It ain't all on the kid AFAIC.

Though I agree that this kid is entirely at fault, I have to agree with Jimmy that the providor of a service has an ethical obligation to his client. Just because you CAN make a sale doesn't mean you SHOULD make that sale. Selling someone something that they don't need is one thing, but selling them something that is likely to harm, stygmatize, or cost them money and opportunity is not to be taken lightly. We are our brother's (and sister's) keepers. Especially our little sisters. Teen age girls often make very bad decisions. Don't you think it's a bit unethical to help them go through with those bad decisions?

Personally I'd think so, but I know you can't force everybody to think like that.
Tattooing is not a trade actually. If it were, it would be easy to apply rules here.