Thread: Pres. Obama, between a rock and a hard place.

I'd translate that to
Americans do not like to die either.

Originally Posted by pio

I think the president should stay away from iran as long as posible...

I wonder what the people who say he should do something about it would have said if Russia or China (just to mention 2 super powers) would intervene in the 2002 election in favor Al Gore...

I guess its a good thing our government wasn't killing the dems in the streets then huh? nor was there rioting in the streets over it.
By the way, it was the 2000 elections

Originally Posted by JMS

I guess its a good thing our government wasn't killing the dems in the streets then huh?
By the way, it was the 2000 elections

woops...
yeah...2k!


so what?
its their problem...not ours...
let them deal with it...

its time for us to stop messing around with the rest of the world when we have tons of problems here!

Originally Posted by pio

woops...
yeah...2k!


so what?
its their problem...not ours...
let them deal with it...

its time for us to stop messing around with the rest of the world when we have tons of problems here!

Wife: "oh look honey, that man over there is hitting that lady. she's bleeding all over the place!"

Husband: "Turn away dear and pretend you didn't see anything. We have enough problems."

I am a firm believer in letting people get on with it.

International involvement in anything, charity, 'development', military action - what ever - seems to be akin to putting Petrol in your Diesel car. It makes a lot of noise, you don't really move anything forward and then it blows up.

I don't really think the US needs to make a statement of where it stands on 'freedom' again, either.

Glen makes a good point, sometimes the US is vilified for not "helping" too.
Where is the line, and when does something become meddling? I genuinely value foreign points of view. I lived in Brasil for Years and was constantly barraged by individual opinions about the US and her actions, and to a point, I can understand different points of view. As an American however, it feels (don't know how else to say this) like my country is expected to be the police and the worldwide humanitarian service, and at the same time vilified for it. That is what it FEELS like sometimes.

Don't know how much I can say without getting too far off track, so I'll stop here for a while.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Could you PLEASE !!!!!! let the rest of the world know this too.....
in other words,,,,

"Your on your own, and you can all kiss my red,white, and blue butt"

you are comparing apples to microsofts...er...oranges...

you are saying the Iranians cant defends themselves...

is that right?
i don't think so...

if the government start a genocide...
then i would say we should do something...

but our involvement should be only to keep peace while they sort the election conflict...

Exactly Del1r1um you end up like a cop at a domestic call, they want help but turn on you as soon as you actually do something, a very dangerous spot to be in....

This was your comment

Originally Posted by pio

so what?
its their problem...not ours...
let them deal with it...

its time for us to stop messing around with the rest of the world when we have tons of problems here!

My comment below was to illustrate what a selfish and self serving statement yours was and not whether the Iranian people can defend themselves or whether or not we should get involved.

Originally Posted by JMS

Wife: "oh look honey, that man over there is hitting that lady. she's bleeding all over the place!"

Husband: "Turn away dear and pretend you didn't see anything. We have enough problems."

Originally Posted by JMS

My comment below was to illustrate what a selfish and self serving statement yours was and not whether the Iranian people can defend themselves or whether or not we should get involved.

i know...
but you statement is not logically correct...
you are comparing a personal choice with a national decision...

the president is not representing him self, but the people. Every time the US mess with other country right to do whatever they want, it always blow in our face,
2 Examples: Afghanistan, Iraq