Thread: Who do you "pray" to?

Originally Posted by gugi

you should ask me more often, i sometimes forget to show you.

Originally Posted by hoglahoo

I just studied my own life and came to the conclusion that praying does make a difference

You can add that one to the previously empty column of your prayer studies results list

Ahh, I see the Father, Son and the Holy Goat made an appearance in this thread:

Originally Posted by ENUF2

God and allah are not the same. ...

Adam and Eve, seven days, magic flood ... same god. Different religions, very different interpretations, but same character. Same as the difference between Zeus and Jupiter. That religion (as they are prone to do) also went through cultural transformations.

I had this argument with my Jewish brother, me taking the "different gods" side, but he persuaded me of the nuance and I've come to accept my error.

Ok if there is a god , which i think there is just because the persona that all living beings have seems to be higher or more valuable than the material things like rocks and other non personality stuff. And if the persona is higher and more valuable than earth,wind,fire,water then if there is a sumpreme being it would make sense that supreme being has a persona rather than being de-valued and like a rock or something.
So if that is true then anyone in perception of the supreme personality is perceiving the same personality. Differnt names and different perceptions by the person using that name make no difference to the person themsevles. For example a guy could have a nickname at work and all his work collegues would have a certain perception of him, then at home he is just simply his name. Then he could have a position in a group where he has another title he is called by. Thats one person with three different titles they are called on by, and each set of people who use the different titles all have their own perception of him, and even within the groups each individual has their own perception of him.
Does this make any difference to that person themselves? no its still the same persona.

Originally Posted by GregJDS

anyone in perception of the supreme personality is perceiving the same personality. Different names and different perceptions by the person using that name make no difference to the person themselves.

What you speak of is relative truth which is worldly wisdom.
[Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 1 Cor 1:20-21 (NIV)]

The world will tolerate anything called religion except that which will truly follows Jesus as the only LORD and Savior. Our problem here is that there there are many who call themselves Christians who follow worldly wisdom and teach a watered down gospel.
[But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2 Peter 2:1-2 (NIV)]

Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 (NIV)

He also said "anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me." Matt 10:38 (NIV)

Jesus spoke of absolutes, He drew the line and set the standard for those who will believe. And just so we know not all will follow....
[Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him." From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. John 6:64-66 (NIV)]

absolute is absolute 2+2 is 4 The sun is the center of the solar system. Now Jesus is absolutely who He said He is The only begotten Son of the Trinity, the sacrifice for our sin, The King of kings and LORD of lords or it's all false which means we either do not need a Savior or we have no chance when it's over it's over. So what it boils down to is we either follow Jesus His way as the absolute standard of a loving God or we hold to our own relative perceptions and hope the last judgment we hear is not Jesus saying "away from Me for I never knew you".

Truth can be found and logic can be seen by those who search for such things but what one follows as truth comes from the heart because that is where belief begins.

Originally Posted by ENUF2

What you speak of is relative truth which is worldly wisdom.
[Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe. 1 Cor 1:20-21 (NIV)]

The world will tolerate anything called religion except that which will truly follows Jesus as the only LORD and Savior. Our problem here is that there there are many who call themselves Christians who follow worldly wisdom and teach a watered down gospel.
[But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 2 Peter 2:1-2 (NIV)]

Jesus said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 (NIV)

He also said "anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me." Matt 10:38 (NIV)

Jesus spoke of absolutes, He drew the line and set the standard for those who will believe. And just so we know not all will follow....
[Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him." From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him. John 6:64-66 (NIV)]

absolute is absolute 2+2 is 4 The sun is the center of the solar system. Now Jesus is absolutely who He said He is The only begotten Son of the Trinity, the sacrifice for our sin, The King of kings and LORD of lords or it's all false which means we either do not need a Savior or we have no chance when it's over it's over. So what it boils down to is we either follow Jesus His way as the absolute standard of a loving God or we hold to our own relative perceptions and hope the last judgment we hear is not Jesus saying "away from Me for I never knew you".

Truth can be found and logic can be seen by those who search for such things but what one follows as truth comes from the heart because that is where belief begins.

Right but the bible has been altered like you said, and its hard to say what partss are allegroy and what parts metaphor and what parts real.

God consciousness and finding truth is the key to health for your mind/body/soul and I dont think any of the practises are specific to any religion. You just need to ofind the truth and apply it.

ENUF are you a vegitarian?

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