Thread: Islam: The religion of peace????

Originally Posted by commiecat

All religions have shed blood. All religions have extreme members who do stupid things in the name of their teachings. I think that the nut job at Fort Hood had many other factors aside from religion that contributed to his actions.

Yes, we know...

But it sure seems to be that screaming "Allah Akbar" and killing people is sure very prevalent right now....

I haven't seen other Religions on the street of major cities in Europe and America calling for the Death of whole peoples....

The true problem is that there is no uprising of the "Moderate Muslims" denouncing this, heck maybe they are scared, I don't know...


Let me elaborate a bit on this:

A suicide bomber screams Allah Akbar and kills 20 people...

The Muslims decree him a Martyr of the Jihad and his family is given money, he gets the express ride to heaven and 76 virgins...

A wacko Christian walks into a Abortion clinic and kills the doctor...

Most Christians decree him Wacko and denounces his actions as against the teachings of Jesus and believe him to be damned...

See the difference????
The people of each religion have to take responsibility..

These are interesting, dont know much about the sites, other than they are not affiliated with a specific religion(from what I can tell, second link may slant a bit) and are not a blog.

Comparison Chart: Christianity vs. Islam - ReligionFacts
Islam vs Christianity

Originally Posted by KristofferBodvin

PS: Don't compare todays reformed christianity with islam, that is rediculous.

in no way i support or encourage the act done by the shooter but i am muslim and maybe have a better view of whats happening.

we cant say that islam is the cause of the shooting. it wasnt mohamed or any muslim personality that told the guy to go and shoot everyone. it was he alone that did the act.

bush started 2 wars ,,,said that jesus told him 2,,,no arabs or muslims blamed jesus cus we know it isnt true

btw we believe in jesus and mary we also believe in the virgin birth. and just so you know mary is the only woman named by name in the quran and has her own chapter (or book)

this happens almost everyday.....some guy looses his marbles...come spraying at his friends and many people die. it could happen to anyone.
it wasnt islam

islam today for the united states is what communism was 50 years ago.
hitler was a christian and so was timothy mcveigh but no one blamed christianity.
while also reading the thread i saw that someone wrote that muhamed married a 9 year old girl...this isnt true,,,please be serious.

i know that islam is frowned upon these days ,,and i dont blame you guys but dont judge a billion people because of 19 stupid highjackers or some crazy lunatic who had way much pressure on him and shot his fellow soldiers. if this guy's name was john doe it would have been different.
anyway , all my deepest sympathies to the family. hope i didnt offend anyone,,,tried to be as smooth and understanding as possible..

Originally Posted by ri7ani

in no way i support or encourage the act done by the shooter but i am muslim and maybe have a better view of whats happening.

ri7ani, look at what Glen wrote a few posts above. Honestly, do you see a difference or not?

Let me elaborate a bit on this:

A suicide bomber screams Allah Akbar and kills 20 people...

The Muslims decree him a Martyr of the Jihad and his family is given money, he gets the express ride to heaven and 76 virgins...

A wacko Christian walks into a Abortion clinic and kills the doctor...

Most Christians decree him Wacko and denounces his actions as against the teachings of Jesus and believe him to be damned...

See the difference????

Originally Posted by ri7ani

i know that islam is frowned upon these days ,,and i dont blame you guys but dont judge a billion people because of 19 stupid highjackers or some crazy lunatic who had way much pressure on him and shot his fellow soldiers. if this guy's name was john doe it would have been different.
anyway , all my deepest sympathies to the family. hope i didnt offend anyone,,,tried to be as smooth and understanding as possible..

I feel for your stance, but I have never been known to be PC

This statement is not to you personally...

But I do blame every single Islamic that does not stand up publicly and take your religion back from the Zelots...
If you do not want to be grouped as one by the rest of the world, then separate the "wackos" from yourselves...
What I see is the crazies demonstrating in Canada also, screaming Death Death and more Death...

So please don't ask me to look beyond that face of Islam...

I cannot do that, until the "moderate" Islamic stands up..

Originally Posted by gssixgun

So please don't ask me to look beyond that face of Islam...

I cannot do that, until the "moderate" Islamic stands up..

From that Fort Hood shootings article that kristoffer linked:

Qaseem Uqdah, a former Marine Corps gunnery sergeant who heads the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council in Washington, D.C., counts upwards of 15,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and Coast Guards as members.

A spokesman for the organisation, established to serve the spiritual needs of the Muslim military, said of Sunday's shootings: 'We express our deepest condolences to the victims and their families. We join the Community of Fort Hood, Texas in their mourning.

'Islam holds the human soul in high esteem, and considers the attack against innocent human beings a grave sin.

'This is a criminal act that is now best dealt with by the law enforcement community.'

Thank you Lee
That link at least gives us some hope that the "Moderate Muslim" is listening ...

All I can say now is let's see more of the same....

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Thank you Lee
That link at least gives us some hope that the "Moderate Muslim" is listening ...

All I can say now is let's see more of the same....

...and from other countries, too.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

But it sure seems to be that screaming "Allah Akbar" and killing people is sure very prevalent right now....

How do we know that he didn't really say "Admiral Ackbar!"? For all I know, he was a crazy Star Wars fan and the religion of The Force is to blame.

Originally Posted by sparq

...and from other countries, too.

For what is worth, my country has 25% Muslim rest is Orthodox christian and very few catholics.
We do not have religious problems. The muslim part of the people come from our 5 centuries under Turkish occupation 14th-19th century. We are the same people no matter the religion. I am not sure that one can blame Islam as a religion for what a bunch of fanatics are doing.