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    Don't know, just sayin ...my taxes went down.

    The quote supposedly refers to Tax Policy Center info.
    Tax Policy Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Mine did too.... I think it was worth about $16 every two weeks. Hmmmm what can I get at Taco Bell with that.......

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    Oh and don't take the home buyer tax break....... You have to pay it back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firefighter View Post
    It's like when you go buy a car at the dealer. They make more money in the finance office than they do in the showroom.

    Dude trust when I say that those days ended with the Bank Collapse, all that stimulus money did NOTHING to ease up on lending...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gssixgun View Post
    Dude trust when I say that those days ended with the Bank Collapse, all that stimulus money did NOTHING to ease up on lending...

    Okay well how it USED to be... lol I sold cars in the early 90's before I became a Firefighter.

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    Also look at your cable and cell phone bill..... there are increases plus new taxes there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    OK, OK...you don't like liberals, I get it. OK, you think some of the things that Obama is doing falls too far into the world of "socialism." But the Anti-Christ?
    I knew the whacknuts of the right and left had some pretty "out there" views...but these percentages are simply terrifying.


    Quarter of Republicans Think Obama May Be the Anti-Christ - Yahoo! News

    32% say he is a Muslim.
    25% say he was born outside the US and is thus not eligible to be president (SERIOUSLY?)
    That pole was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyHAD View Post
    As Abe Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." I think he would have approved of the results of our last election.
    I thought Bob Marley said that!!!!

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    I am not an expert on polls, so if the Harris poll is flawed--let those who can demonstrate that to be the case do so. Otherwise, this is not the first time polling has yielded some pretty unsettling results about what some folks choose to believe about our president, whether it's that he's a closet Muslim (not that there's anything wrong with that) or a Manchurian candidate (something very wrong with that) or that he's not a US citizen, etc. I think because there are a number of "notable" voices that have raised questions in this regard (Limbaugh, Coulter, etc) there has been more of a tendency to see poll numbers that reflect what some of us see as an alarming willingness to entertain absurd beliefs.
    Although I reside in the "liberal" Northeast, I am personally acquainted with a number of folks who truly question whether Obama is a US citizen or a Muslim. So I don't find it too surprising (although depressing) that a not insubstantial percentage of those on the Right might hold the type of beliefs referenced in the Harris poll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billyjeff2 View Post
    I am not an expert on polls, so if the Harris poll is flawed--let those who can demonstrate that to be the case do so.
    It's impossible to say when the methods for the poll and it's results are not disclosed.

    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.

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