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joebehar Where Do We Draw The Line? 05-22-2012, 01:02 PM
pixelfixed If the Govt is paying... 05-22-2012, 01:20 PM
Theseus As long as the US is a... 05-22-2012, 01:55 PM
joebehar In your country you have... 05-22-2012, 02:40 PM
thebigspendur You want a can of worms here?... 05-22-2012, 04:51 PM
joebehar I think maybe you... 05-22-2012, 09:17 PM
AFDavis11 Draw the line just shy of... 05-22-2012, 09:31 PM
Ryan82 Joe, IMO the term "nanny... 05-23-2012, 12:22 AM
joebehar I'm beginning to get that... 05-23-2012, 03:23 AM
Bruno I love this type of... 05-23-2012, 05:54 AM
joebehar Bruno, You have... 05-23-2012, 01:22 PM
thebigspendur Just along the lines Bruno... 05-23-2012, 03:56 PM
joebehar Nope...I just want them to... 05-23-2012, 11:20 PM
gugi My favorite slogan along... 05-24-2012, 08:06 AM
Bruno Additionally, if you get... 05-24-2012, 02:20 PM
Crotalus The biggest problem I have... 05-24-2012, 02:42 PM
Bruno Perhaps. But is private... 05-24-2012, 04:17 PM
Crotalus You don't have to be able to... 05-24-2012, 07:08 PM
gugi Where they get the most... 05-24-2012, 07:28 PM
mrsell63 I guess it's sort of like... 05-26-2012, 12:35 AM
Theseus Why should I vote if I don't... 05-26-2012, 12:47 AM
mrsell63 If nobody voted, government... 05-26-2012, 01:03 AM
Grizzley1 Just one thing.. storage isnt... 05-26-2012, 02:37 AM
gugi There have always been 'model... 05-26-2012, 03:03 AM
Grizzley1 A 2008 Technology Review... 05-29-2012, 03:06 AM
gugi Combusting hydrogen is... 05-29-2012, 04:37 AM
Crotalus Grizz, Hydrogen is a great... 05-29-2012, 02:28 PM
Grizzley1 I believe that was the fuel... 05-30-2012, 02:58 AM
Crotalus There energy has to come from... 05-30-2012, 01:40 PM
Crotalus Where do they get the... 05-26-2012, 03:20 PM
Sticky I've always thought the two... 05-26-2012, 02:45 AM
joebehar Nope....Although free... 05-26-2012, 01:26 PM
Theseus I never said I don't vote.... 05-26-2012, 01:39 PM
1OldGI +1 I was actually quite... 05-26-2012, 01:56 PM
gugi So you want to draw the line... 05-26-2012, 02:23 PM
1OldGI No wasn't suggesting... 05-26-2012, 04:50 PM
HNSB I believe the obligation... 05-26-2012, 03:57 PM
Crotalus The fact of life is that... 05-26-2012, 03:14 PM
Bruno Yes. And then they'll be... 05-24-2012, 09:04 PM
HNSB To elaborate on what I wrote... 05-24-2012, 09:53 PM
thebigspendur There is no such thing as... 05-24-2012, 11:02 PM
Theseus I don't think it's fair to... 05-24-2012, 04:25 PM
thebigspendur Yes, it's easy to say the... 05-24-2012, 04:50 PM
Crotalus What sense does it make to... 05-24-2012, 07:14 PM
gugi And the private industry is... 05-24-2012, 05:17 PM
proximus26 I was pretty sure that only... 05-24-2012, 05:29 PM
Crotalus You haven't been following... 05-24-2012, 07:29 PM
gugi And Bernie Madoff went to... 05-24-2012, 07:39 PM
Bruno By the same token we should... 05-24-2012, 08:57 PM
LX_Emergency That's only funny if it... 05-25-2012, 02:16 PM
joebehar Oil sands crude sells right... 05-24-2012, 03:16 PM
gugi And the Canadian taxpayers... 05-24-2012, 04:22 PM
joebehar That's just simply not true. 05-24-2012, 04:45 PM
gugi Well, it's easy to make... 05-24-2012, 04:55 PM
joebehar You mean as opposed to oil... 05-24-2012, 05:15 PM
gugi Did I ever say that the... 05-24-2012, 05:31 PM
joebehar You're absolutely right in... 05-24-2012, 06:02 PM
gugi I am in favor of 'free... 05-24-2012, 06:12 PM
HNSB This is a quote from a post I... 05-24-2012, 06:17 PM
joebehar I trust your facts and... 05-24-2012, 06:28 PM
HNSB You've probably heard it... 05-24-2012, 06:31 PM
gugi Same reason for not producing... 05-24-2012, 06:55 PM
Crotalus What you are talking about is... 05-24-2012, 07:32 PM
honedright And those in government never... 05-26-2012, 05:56 PM
1OldGI +100 if you're counting on... 05-26-2012, 06:19 PM
alb1981 So anyone hear about Obama... 05-31-2012, 07:20 PM
Crotalus Yes, I heard about this and... 05-31-2012, 11:41 PM
1OldGI Crotalus, my friend, the... 05-31-2012, 11:48 PM
Grizzley1 NOT while I still have a... 06-01-2012, 03:35 AM
HNSB aaaand you just went on the... 06-01-2012, 03:40 AM
Grizzley1 Thats fine with me 06-01-2012, 03:52 AM
Lazarus He did no such thing. Just... 06-01-2012, 12:24 AM
HNSB factcheck.org leaves out the... 06-01-2012, 12:34 AM
Lazarus No it doesn't. The second... 06-01-2012, 02:55 AM
HNSB Yeah. I skimmed it too... 06-01-2012, 03:31 AM
Crotalus Isn't this what they do... 06-01-2012, 02:12 PM
thebigspendur For those wishing to find... 06-01-2012, 04:23 PM
hoglahoo Knowingly was pushing it, but... 06-01-2012, 04:51 PM
honedright Let's keep an eye on Space-X.... 06-01-2012, 05:05 PM
Slartibartfast Nasa has done a bit more than... 06-01-2012, 05:26 PM
honedright We pay tax dollars for... 06-01-2012, 06:14 PM
HNSB Speaking of tax money and... 06-01-2012, 06:33 PM
Theseus Congress probably needed a... 06-01-2012, 07:54 PM
razorjoe As our type of government is... 06-01-2012, 08:36 PM
honedright I believe the Romans (upon... 06-01-2012, 10:45 PM
gugi Yes, 'virtue' being essential... 06-01-2012, 11:31 PM
honedright My favorite example of Roman... 06-02-2012, 12:33 AM
gugi Yes, the famous Cincinnatus,... 06-02-2012, 12:44 AM
honedright I don't know about all of... 06-02-2012, 01:23 AM
gugi Is it? Don't we? I would... 06-02-2012, 01:52 AM
hoglahoo They got buried 06-01-2012, 10:06 PM
1OldGI To quote our benevolent... 06-01-2012, 10:34 PM
hoglahoo Oh come on. the money is... 06-01-2012, 10:35 PM
Crotalus Obama was asked about those... 06-02-2012, 08:35 PM
AFDavis11 WKRP in Cincinnatus. 06-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Jimbo Did Cincinnatus have a... 06-02-2012, 08:59 PM
thebigspendur There are many many things... 06-02-2012, 11:25 PM
honedright Products such as? 06-03-2012, 12:26 AM
Jimbo Space food sticks. Duh! ... 06-03-2012, 02:30 AM
honedright Oh, right. 06-03-2012, 03:00 AM
Crotalus Mobile Intensive Care Units.... 06-03-2012, 03:31 AM
honedright Aren't many, if not all, of... 06-03-2012, 04:46 PM
gugi You are mixing up morality... 06-03-2012, 07:13 PM
honedright I'm not mixing up morality... 06-03-2012, 07:38 PM
gugi Well done. 06-03-2012, 07:44 PM
Crotalus Private industry invented all... 06-03-2012, 07:40 PM
honedright Yeah, but all the Russians... 06-03-2012, 08:05 PM
Crotalus Until we started working on... 06-03-2012, 10:30 PM
thebigspendur You have got to be kidding... 06-03-2012, 11:32 PM
gugi It's a little bit different,... 06-04-2012, 03:43 AM
thebigspendur And speaking of the Nuclear... 06-04-2012, 04:31 PM
Crotalus The difference is a Nuke is a... 06-04-2012, 05:05 PM
BobH Thanks, just spewed coffee... 06-04-2012, 05:33 PM
hoglahoo Speaking of NASA, the federal... 06-04-2012, 09:29 PM
HNSB Hmm.... I haven't gotten to... 06-04-2012, 09:50 PM
32t I am not 100% against it but... 05-27-2012, 02:04 AM
epd Ill put my 2 cents Joe, As... 05-24-2012, 03:24 AM
joebehar epd...I would have no problem... 05-24-2012, 03:21 PM
ryanjewell I'm not trying to be rude,... 05-24-2012, 07:35 PM
Crotalus Obamacare is already costing... 05-24-2012, 11:29 PM
joebehar it seems I've stirred up a... 05-25-2012, 12:03 AM
gugi Oh, so now you want to... 05-25-2012, 01:17 AM
Sticky I don't even know what the... 05-25-2012, 02:16 AM
Sailor Then why is it that so many... 05-25-2012, 01:41 PM
ryanjewell Versus a faceless corporation... 05-25-2012, 12:04 AM
Crotalus No, I disagree. I recently... 05-25-2012, 03:21 AM
Crotalus This would also not be a... 05-25-2012, 11:57 AM
joebehar Interesting...although you're... 05-25-2012, 12:38 PM
BobH The hysterical response to... 05-25-2012, 01:34 PM
Crotalus Yes, things like Love Canal... 05-25-2012, 03:47 PM
Crotalus Lawyers keep bad corporations... 05-26-2012, 03:04 PM
ryanjewell Good for you...too bad for my... 05-25-2012, 03:36 AM
Grizzley1 I may not be the most... 05-25-2012, 04:52 AM
gugi I don't think the oil... 05-25-2012, 05:15 AM
Crotalus Storage is the issue. Wind... 05-25-2012, 12:02 PM
Johnus These are very difficult... 05-25-2012, 08:07 PM
ryanjewell I guess you proved my point... 05-27-2012, 07:03 PM
gssixgun Gentlemen: A small... 05-27-2012, 07:17 PM
thebigspendur If anyone wants to know what... 05-27-2012, 09:52 PM
Slartibartfast I think the government should... 05-27-2012, 10:01 PM
Crotalus I think Obama is deliberately... 05-27-2012, 11:04 PM
Theseus I think you just proved the... 05-27-2012, 11:30 PM
BobH As an outsider looking in,... 05-27-2012, 11:08 PM
Sailor Whenever any country gets... 05-28-2012, 09:29 PM
Johnus Maybe this is what the... 05-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Johnus The run up to the 2012... 05-31-2012, 01:29 PM
thebigspendur Are you saying there is... 05-31-2012, 04:23 PM
hoglahoo Another reference to the Head... 05-31-2012, 07:11 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorjoe View Post
    As our type of government is set up it works best for the morale. once you kick out the standard for our consitution, then your government and the people go down hill. This can be traced back to our religous schools in the country, once they became apostate and turned against the Holy Bible (AVKJV1611) that showed up in the pulpits then in the congration then out in the streets then in the voting booth. That is why [B]Both( POLITICAL PARTIES ARE CORUPT!) That is why our country is going to hell they have no morale bearing!There is no spell check available at the library so excuse the spelling erors.
    I believe the Romans (upon whose republic ours was at least partially modeled) called that standard of ethics and morality "virtue." Nicolo Machiavelli believed, as well as our founders who by the way studied Machiavelli among others, that "virtue" instilled in the people via education, parenting and culture was a basic necessity for the operation and survival of a republic such as ours. There can be found many examples of the decline of that virtue in our society going all the way back to the founding. I'd say that the decline is exponentially increasing. Do you see any correlation between that decline and the weakening of the U.S. republic? And I am making the assumption that there has been a definite moral decline. But "virtue" goes beyond morals. I believe the Romans included in virtue those characteristics that are often associated with heroism.
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