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Thread: Pipe of the Day
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01-25-2013, 10:02 PM #5921
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Thanked: 983Some of my grandfathers pipes. My Grandfather on the Australian side of the family (my mothers dad), was a bushman 'til the day he died, and a pipe smoker for much of his life. I asked my Aunties to send me photo's of some of his pipes. He didn't have a huge collection, but enough for a bloke on the land to get by with.
Phil (NoseWarmer) will be pleased to note that there are two MM cobs amongst them I'm sure . Four of the pipes have no makers marks. Another Aunt has about four more pipes she thinks, and one of those to my memory, is the most interesting of them all, but I'll wait and see what photos she manages to send me, if she does at all.
Mick
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01-25-2013, 11:24 PM #5922
Last edited by NoseWarmer; 01-26-2013 at 03:45 AM.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated...
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01-25-2013, 11:29 PM #5923
Ring Around the Rosie
Early attestation
Kate Greenaway's illustration from Mother Goose or the Old Nursery Rhymes (1881), showing children playing the gameThe first printing of the rhyme was in Kate Greenaway's 1881 edition of Mother Goose; or, the Old Nursery Rhymes:
Ring-a-ring-a-roses,
A pocket full of posies;
Ashes! Ashes!
We all fall down.
Plague interpretation
The rhyme has often been associated with the Great Plague which happened in England in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of the Black Death in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before the Second World War make no mention of this; by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in the United Kingdom. Peter and Iona Opie remark:
The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, and posies of herbs were carried as protection and to ward off the smell of the disease. Sneezing or coughing was a final fatal symptom, and "all fall down" was exactly what happened.
The line Ashes, Ashes in colonial versions of the rhyme is claimed to refer variously to cremation of the bodies, the burning of victims' houses, or blackening of their skin, and the theory has been adapted to be applied to other versions of the rhyme. In its various forms, the interpretation has entered into popular culture and has been used elsewhere to make oblique reference to the plague. (For "hidden meaning" in other nursery rhymes see Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary, Humpty Dumpty, Jack Be Nimble, Little Jack Horner, Cock Robin, and meanings of nursery rhymes.)
Many folklore scholars regard the theory as baseless for several reasons:
1.The explanation appeared very late.
2.The symptoms described do not fit especially well with the Great Plague.
3.The great variety of forms makes it unlikely that the modern form is the most ancient one, and the words on which the interpretation are based are not found in many of the earliest records of the rhyme (see above).
4.European and 19th-century versions of the rhyme suggest that this "fall" was not a literal falling down, but a curtsy or other form of bending movement that was common in other dramatic singing games.
And now back to pipe smoking and jokingLife is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated...
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01-26-2013, 01:08 AM #5924
Dr. Grabow Viking: Well it showed up today... I'm not even sure if it was smoked once... Nice pipe... Now to find a blend...
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated...
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01-26-2013, 03:11 AM #5925
In celebrations of Robbie Burns, tonight I'll dip into Rattray's Ol' Gowrie in a Ferndown Bark *** with a healthy dose of single malt...good times on a snowy evening.
Lang May Yer Lum Reek…
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01-26-2013, 03:39 AM #5926
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Thanked: 198Re: Pipe of the Day
i was just corrected on the nursery rhyme, its originally was achoo achoo, ashes ashes was substituted to make the rhyme more children friendly.
my son covered that in his studies of mid evil times in his home school course.always be yourself...unless you suck. Joss Whedon
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01-26-2013, 10:35 PM #5927
Smoking a home made pipe with Miss river and making a home made.Have not made one in awhile so today was
a good day to get back with it.Got it shaped and been rusticating it for about an hour.
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01-26-2013, 11:20 PM #5928
The other day I left a Czech pipe tool with a friend to give to his cousin. I was thanked for it and sent a picture. He already had one, but, the one he had he got from a box of his father's old pipe stuff. The pipe tool, he picked up while in Europe. He was there in 1945 and was part of the Invasion of Normandy, went in on Omaha beach with an artillery unit. The tool looks very much like it's modern counterpart, which makes me wonder. Is the same place making them now as they made them years ago??
Silence is Golden, but duct tape is Silver.
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01-26-2013, 11:31 PM #5929
I like the small one... Less in the pocket
http://youtu.be/Ppza0nAPFdELast edited by NoseWarmer; 01-26-2013 at 11:41 PM.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated...
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01-27-2013, 12:06 AM #5930
Re: Pipe of the Day
I finally got to try one of these hunting pipes. And if you want to try them I say go for it. Really cool smoke and impossible to make gurgle