Thread: Shoobie Doobie Asagi

Originally Posted by mainaman

hazy finish means that the stone is not that fine.
if you want good stone , contact Maksim
JNS
Rich, Lynn, I got our stones from him.

That's strange. Because I get mirror like finish on naniwa ss
3000. It's quite sharp even then. Then I do naniwa 8000 SS
and it's almost perfect mirror and even sharper. Then I
finish on the okudo stone and the mirror polish disappears, but
the edge gets even sharper.

Sharpman

Originally Posted by SharpMan

Can wel call Shouboudani, Shoubou? Or Scooby Doo?Shobo?

Beautiful stone Zib. Congratz.

Have you done what DrNaka suggested, getting a mirror surface
on your stone?

Why are asagi's so special? Is is because they are from deep strata
and therefore very hard and fine? Are there other reasons? I also
read they can be scratchy? How is this effect mitigated?

Which mine produces the best asagi stones? I would guess Nakayama
since stones from this mine is ar so popular and expensive. Which mine
also has beautiful asagi stones, but much less expensive? I might buy
one in the future. Damn this HAD!!!

Sharpman

Hi, I do have a mirror finish on the Shoubudani. After I lapp it with both the DMT XX and C. ( I start with XX and move to C) I use wet sandpaper, up t0 1000 grit. I wrap the sandpaper around the DMT Plates, and it works great in the sink under running water...

The surface of the Shoubudani is like glass. It has little sparkles in the stone. Very cool looking. Very nice finisher...I recently used my nagura. Worked well.

I recently took a Fily Double Temple 13 to it, One of those Classic Shaving NOS Fily's, they had a while back. They were bad out of the box, and usually needed a bevel set...Anyway, Mine was so so, shaved ok, nothing to write home about. I used the Nagura,
Mejiro, and Koma, and finished with Tomonagura, then just water. It shaves great now. I used X's, and little circles, I watched for the slurry to change as I went. The edge is keen, but doesn't have that bite to it....Good shaver...

Originally Posted by zib

Hi, I do have a mirror finish on the Shoubudani. After I lapp it with both the DMT XX and C. ( I start with XX and move to C) I use wet sandpaper, up t0 1000 grit. I wrap the sandpaper around the DMT Plates, and it works great in the sink under running water...

The surface of the Shoubudani is like glass. It has little sparkles in the stone. Very cool looking. Very nice finisher...I recently used my nagura. Worked well.

I recently took a Fily Double Temple 13 to it, One of those Classic Shaving NOS Fily's, they had a while back. They were bad out of the box, and usually needed a bevel set...Anyway, Mine was so so, shaved ok, nothing to write home about. I used the Nagura,
Mejiro, and Koma, and finished with Tomonagura, then just water. It shaves great now. I used X's, and little circles, I watched for the slurry to change as I went. The edge is keen, but doesn't have that bite to it....Good shaver...

Thanks for the post Zib. Good explanation.

I did my usual thing again. SS 1000,3000,8000 and then finished
on the okudo nashiji.

On the SS 3000 I get half mirror, half misty/hazy. On the 8000 I
get very good mirror, not perfect. On the Okudo, I get the
about the same as on the SS 3000, half mirror, half hazy,slightly
less actually. Not sure how this is called.

Sharpman

Originally Posted by SharpMan

On the SS 3000 I get half mirror, half misty/hazy. On the 8000 I
get very good mirror, not perfect. On the Okudo, I get the
about the same as on the SS 3000, half mirror, half hazy,slightly
less actually. Not sure how this is called.

Sharpman

Your Okudo is obviously a fine stone if it improves the edge after your synthetics but don't expect a mirror polished edge looking exactly the same as a synthetic. The natural particles are more rounded than jagged synthetics so light will still reflect differently.

Finally started my taxes! Just sent another email to Maxim, so we shoudl hopefully begin picking out a stone in the next few days.

I just hope I don't have to return those razors back to their respective shops before I get to try out my new Shoobie Doobie--most of them are hard steels (which I love)...

As my early post i mention i will try to buy one and let you know what i think about them.
As all natural stones not all of them is as fine as we like.
Some of them i don't think you could call excellent finisher.
if you are going to buy one try to test first then buy it.
This is 2 of them i bought and they are finest grit .
They will do great job .
Cutting power is medium.
Edge is fine which you will get comfortable shave off it.
Thank you Rich for posting this threat and letting us know about those stones.
gl

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

As my early post i mention i will try to buy one and let you know what i think about them.
As all natural stones not all of them is as fine as we like.
Some of them i don't think you could call excellent finisher.
if you are going to buy one try to test first then buy it.
This is 2 of them i bought and they are finest grit .
They will do great job .
Cutting power is medium.
Edge is fine which you will get comfortable shave off it.
Thank you Rich for posting this threat and letting us know about those stones.
gl

Sham how do they compare to Escher?

Also those are not from the same source Rich and I got ours correct?

Another thing: how has everyone been doing the initial flattening (I know about the final smoothing) for these? I don't have a D8XX & don't really want to buy one for just one stone. Has anyone used (good) wet/dry paper @ the 120 or so level? I can then go to my D8C & then onward, but I'm wondering about scratches from bad paper for the 1st step in the process.

Stefan
if you have finest one i would say it is very close to escher with a lot more cutting power.
I had tested couple different ones and choose 2 which is one huge size and next one is normal size.
Even there is differences between this 2.
To use this stone is a lot easier compare to escher etc ,i mean anyone can use it.Nothing special.
I don't think we all get the same stone.source is different too? i may be wrong.
color of the stones are different.
what i got has yellowish to it but most i have seen in here seems like purplish.
About the lapping.

PA23-250 120 paper will be a little aggressive for this stone. it is soft stone.
if you can start 325 you should be fine.
i usually never go more then 600 and very rare 1k level.
you shouldn't have any trouble to lap this stone.
hope this helps.

Originally Posted by PA23-250

Another thing: how has everyone been doing the initial flattening (I know about the final smoothing) for these? I don't have a D8XX & don't really want to buy one for just one stone. Has anyone used (good) wet/dry paper @ the 120 or so level? I can then go to my D8C & then onward, but I'm wondering about scratches from bad paper for the 1st step in the process.

Those are real bear to lap, mine is still with 2 low corners, and I just spent 40 minutes with DMT XXC on another Shobudani and gave up , it still has all corners low.

Sham, the source of your stones is definitely different. I too agree those stones are not hard to use even with different sluries.