Thread: Dead blade?

Learn to set a bevel and pick a test that will tell you with absolute certainty when the bevel is set.

This

is a simple test that only requires a minimal of magnification and a strong light.

Do not move up in grit until you are certain the bevel is set.

It should only take you a few minutes to set a bevel on a good 1k, do tape the spine until you learn to hone.

Are you using a good synthetic 1K?

Originally Posted by rodb

Something is seriously wrong with either the steel or your technique, I've honed several hundred razors for myself and others and never go anywhere near those pass counts and rarely break 100 laps on anything, even the hardest steel

I think the problem is his technique and since it has gone so long probably now the razer has some serious home ware

With 10 or 15 layers of tape your bevel angle will be miles out, unless you have honed the spine down to nothing. I would seriously suggest that you stop and get someone with more experience to try and rescue the situation.

I am not really sure what you process is, but if you have set a bevel with all that tape and then removed it before moving to the next stone all you are doing is grinding away at the non edge side of the bevel.

Here some pics of the blade and the stone;

the grit exact of the stone is unknow by me. i found it on a garage sale. i though 1k (approx.) but i used it for many razor to make the bevel and i did not have any problem untill now. it works fine.



This pictures of the razor i just took it seems normal. even in x60 loop.



PS: the blade is kind a dirty ^^ with my skin after tried.

Oustoura,

I agree there is something wrong - if the razor doesn't have visible damage and does not achieve a set bevel with far less strokes on the hone. Especially if you do not have problems with other razors. Usually pastes like CrOx are only used for a very few strokes, maybe 5-10, though coarser pastes were more commonly used for sharpening in Europe than in the US. But hundreds of strokes without getting some OK results sometime during the honing means something is wrong.

Maybe the best thing to do would be for someone else with some experience to look at the razor and try to hone it. If they fail, the razor is likely not good.

How much pressure are you using? Sometimes too much pressure can cause problems that look like what I think I'm seeing in your images.

Of course if you want to buy me a ticket to Paris, I'll be glad to pack up my hones and come to help you!

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by Steve56

Oustoura,

I agree there is something wrong - if the razor doesn't have visible damage and does not achieve a set bevel with far less strokes on the hone. Especially if you do not have problems with other razors. Usually pastes like CrOx are only used for a very few strokes, maybe 5-10, though coarser pastes were more commonly used for sharpening in Europe than in the US. But hundreds of strokes without getting some OK results sometime during the honing means something is wrong.

Maybe the best thing to do would be for someone else with some experience to look at the razor and try to hone it. If they fail, the razor is likely not good.

How much pressure are you using? Sometimes too much pressure can cause problems that look like what I think I'm seeing in your images.

Of course if you want to buy me a ticket to Paris, I'll be glad to pack up my hones and come to help you!

Cheers, Steve

Steve, are you talking about the scratches right up to the etching?

Originally Posted by edhewitt

Steve, are you talking about the scratches right up to the etching?

Ed, if we are talking about the horizontal scratches, those are pretty common to see on used razors that have been "cleaned up". I suppose it's quite possible someone got overly energetic with a Dremel and destroyed the temper at the edge.

Are those the scratches you're talking about?

Cheers, Steve

Originally Posted by Steve56

Ed, if we are talking about the horizontal scratches, those are pretty common to see on used razors that have been "cleaned up". I suppose it's quite possible someone got overly energetic with a Dremel and destroyed the temper at the edge.

Are those the scratches you're talking about?

Cheers, Steve

Yes, those ones exactly

Originally Posted by edhewitt

Yes, those ones exactly

Just to make sure there is no mid understandings...
You need help at this point. SEND it to some one with more EXPERIENCE or you will not be happy with the end result

Well i think i will send it to a friend for he looks. and he may try it on different stones which i don't have. The scratchs upside of the edge were already there when i found the blade. i tried to clean them but no succes. so i just left them there.

For the pressure, it was all in the beginning i applied on the blade (well as usual and not too much) but at the last passes, i just slided the blade on the stone with no pressure.

For the pastes, i've a coarse one which is in black colour. Do you think that may try?

Thanks again for all your advices