Today's Workout Thread

[whoever]

Well obviously, you would have to change weight ,. It just a little more work to change free weight than machine resistance. .IMO, do you want a workout, or do you want to pretend your getting a workout.

I reckon it depends on the exercise. For instance, I used to like pull downs both wide grip and narrow grip. Other than chin ups, bent over rows (DB and BB) it's difficult to work your back in a similar fashion without a pulldown machine. However, with bench presses as opposed to machine bench presses, you need to balance the weights which works different muscles. Take that to tyhe next level and do DB Bench presses. I bet you can't use the same weight for DB bench presses as you do for bench presses as you do for machine bench presses. Now, a POSITIVE would need to be the ability to apply more resistance with machines. But functional strength requires the intermediary supporting muscles to be worked to. There's a place for both and you should use both machines and free weights in my opinion.

[whoever]

So to be clear it amounts to on/off month ? To prevent a tolerence build up.

Take every day if you're a serious lifter, even on recovery days. Don't want to take too much, 30-40g / day. Take a teaspoon when you rise, one after your workout, (before too if you wish), and one before bed.

[Pithor]

Any thought on free weights vs machines? Do free weights in fact actually increase muscle mass, build muscle, as opposed to machines?

I had asked a similar qusrion, in a synical way, but I would say it doesn't matter machine vs free weight. Because all your body knows is resistance applied tare, repair. And machines only tone is an qick easy way to keep someone on the free weights where you are forced to whatch your form and do it correct, or you all know, where a machine seems to protect you from gurtingyoursrlf to some extent.
I hope my rambling made sence.

What I heard from instructors and experienced lifters (as in guys in their late sixties and still lifting serious weights) and experienced myself is what Carl said: free weights force you to utilise more muscle groups e.g. for balance. Machines are much more focused on specific muscle groups. For instance, a bench press on a machine will work your shoulders and core much less than with free weights. A military press/shoulder press standing up will work your back more than doing them on a machine, as well as your legs (or lower body in general) ever so slightly which are almost useless while performing them on a machine.

The limited focus of machines can be beneficial, such as in rehabilitation or toning muscles, but using them exclusively can result in development too much focussed on the larger muscle groups.

I have always preferred free weights, because of the versatility in muscle groups you can work and the fact that I have to pay attention to form and technique, from which I benefit greatly also outside the gym, physical as well as mentally (body awareness).

I haven't done much weight training lately, apart from bodyweight training and I've even been slacking in that department as well, but I'm going to pick it up soonish, when time permits. I was (and will be) very content in doing the four basics:

1. Squat
2. Bench press
3. Military/shoulder press (front)
4. Deadlift

My main focus was the deadlift, as it works wonders for most of your body, but especially your back. Of the four gym days I would do deadlifts at least twice, often thrice. No belt, no wrist wraps; just magnesium (for the heavier weights), good technique and a slow, natural increase in weights. Mix up sets, number of repetitions to build muscle stamina as well as strength. Although when I pick it up again I'll have to give the squats more attention, as well as looking into the clean.

So those four, push-ups, sit ups and bag work for cardio. Oh, and of course warm up and final stretching. Although when I pick it up again I'll have to give the squats more attention, as well as looking into the clean.

I prefer to keep things simple and straight forward. Now all I have to do is start

[whoever]

Ahhh, so staring tomorrow, great t hear :-)

What I heard from instructors and experienced lifters (as in guys in their late sixties and still lifting serious weights) and experienced myself is what Carl said: free weights force you to utilise more muscle groups e.g. for balance. Machines are much more focused on specific muscle groups. For instance, a bench press on a machine will work your shoulders and core much less than with free weights. A military press/shoulder press standing up will work your back more than doing them on a machine, as well as your legs (or lower body in general) ever so slightly which are almost useless while performing them on a machine.

The limited focus of machines can be beneficial, such as in rehabilitation or toning muscles, but using them exclusively can result in development too much focussed on the larger muscle groups.

I have always preferred free weights, because of the versatility in muscle groups you can work and the fact that I have to pay attention to form and technique, from which I benefit greatly also outside the gym, physical as well as mentally (body awareness).

I haven't done much weight training lately, apart from bodyweight training and I've even been slacking in that department as well, but I'm going to pick it up soonish, when time permits. I was (and will be) very content in doing the four basics:

1. Squat
2. Bench press
3. Military/shoulder press (front)
4. Deadlift

My main focus was the deadlift, as it works wonders for most of your body, but especially your back. Of the four gym days I would do deadlifts at least twice, often thrice. No belt, no wrist wraps; just magnesium (for the heavier weights), good technique and a slow, natural increase in weights. Mix up sets, number of repetitions to build muscle stamina as well as strength. Although when I pick it up again I'll have to give the squats more attention, as well as looking into the clean.

So those four, push-ups, sit ups and bag work for cardio. Oh, and of course warm up and final stretching. Although when I pick it up again I'll have to give the squats more attention, as well as looking into the clean.

I prefer to keep things simple and straight forward. Now all I have to do is start

[Thisisclog]

Stairs day today, this time the upper west bowl and half of the lower west bowl. Gotta say, after doing the upper deck, the lower felt like Christmas. Jello legs.

[neehooya]

Today's workout kick my behind but felt great after it was all done...
Here it is:
21xDeadlifts @225
400m Run
5 Pull-Ups
10 Push-Ups
15 Squats

15xDeadlifts @185
400m Run
5 Pull-Ups
10 Push-Ups
15 Squats

9xDeadlifts @185
400m Run
5 Pull-Ups
10 Push-Ups
15 Squats
Done in 31:55

[Firefighter2]

So to be clear it amounts to on/off month ? To prevent a tolerence build up.

No, you're just replacing what working out uses up. No tolerance build up.

[Thug]

Just got home from a night ride.

It's a lap race with the laps approx 2.3km on mostly singletrack. The aim is to see how many laps you can do in an hour, although tonight was 45 minutes due to a late start.

The ride to the race and back home gave me just short of 38km's.

[whoever]

No, you're just replacing what working out uses up. No tolerance build up.

I am under the impression that the body will build a tolerance overtime to anything to ingest or physically do repeatedly :ie: medication , you get the dosage upped every few months. or am I still thinking the in the wrong direction about this? also for anyone else this is good for anyone on a paleo or is celliac to take

The Life of a Gluten-Free Bodybuilder – Part 5 | NFCA

[Phrank]

I am under the impression that the body will build a tolerance overtime to anything to ingest or physically do repeatedly :ie: medication , you get the dosage upped every few months. or am I still thinking the in the wrong direction about this? also for anyone else this is good for anyone on a paleo or is celliac to take

The Life of a Gluten-Free Bodybuilder – Part 5 | NFCA

Yes, my PT advised once every couple of months to use a different type of Vegetarian Protein Powder after a workout, she said exactly that, they become less effective with using the same product, so I switch between 3 or 4 brands of the stuff.

She also mentioned, this pre-workout stuff I bought once, UFC Assault Pre-Workout powder, people develop huge resistances to the stuff. I used the recommended capful once, felt like I was on fire, every hair on my body felt like it was tingling and standing straight up, my head was buzzing pretty intently as well. Now, occasionally if I'm really tired, I'll use a third of a capful, and I can still feel the stuff. She mentioned she knows some that take 3 and 4 capfuls of the stuff before a workout...I'd ferkin' explode if I did that, as mentioned, you just develop tolerance/resistance to the things.