Thread: ONE COTICULE HONING

Originally Posted by hi_bud_gl

I am sorry but i have to be respectfully disagree with your method.
Lets see what makes me not happy.
at first

your first step making 30 strokes in one side then go to another side and make 30 strokes?
You know and understand i am sure about it. it will not be exact amount of pressure put on both sides?
it is just impossible to put same amount of pressure in 30 strokes on both side of the blade. that is why you are saying pay attention to bevel as soon as you see uneven bevel go head fix it? quesion is why? why not do turn the blade and make normal strokes on both side of the blade?

Sham, regular X-strokes don't offer any extra guarantee at equal pressure. If anyone needs to do a lot of bevel work on a heavily convexed bevel, I would always advice him to keep an eye on both sides developing evenly. If not, the only remedy to deal with it, as far as I know, is to spend some extra time on the narrowest side.

what is your scientific prove 30 x30 in different sides is better then just regular way making strokes?
None, what is yours?

I am positive doing 30 stroke on one side and 30 strokes another will end up uneven bevel 90% times.
We are humans not machines to put exact pressures while doing 30 strokes.
Rest assured, during regular X's, my pull half differs form my push half also. Getting unequal bevel faces is something that happens slowly over many honing jobs. There's plenty of time to watch it and to compensate with some extra work on the narrow side.

in extreme case you will end up making 1400 stroke (including 30 +60 on strop)
Now My questions is this
after setting bevel you are taping back of the blade and making 30 strokes with belgian coticule ? you think this will great a new bevel ? I really don't think so.
Lastly i think spending so much time is just waste of time. You can bring any razor in better condition by using Norton 4/8 a lot less time.
I don't have a Norton 4K/8K...
On a typical dull razor, using my suggested method takes me under 15 minutes. (I know that I'm a rapid X-stroker, but the most time goes into the bevel setting, which uses the one-sided stroke. Anyone can do that fast.) How long does it take on a Norton? 5 minutes?
Again I personally have nothing against you but i am against your ideas which i think is not right.
I haven't seen any person come back and say they had great shave off of coticule .You can get great shave off coticule but you will need to go next step pastes or escher's or nakayama.
This is my 002 cent.

Sham, you say the Coticule gives not good results. That is true, is you expect good keenness from the use of slurry. So far you have dismissed my theories about them. Which is fine, because I don't care. I'm here to share what works for me, and my unsolicited green dits suggest that some of it also works for others. If you are not prepared to try the things that work for others, then you'll never find out the true brilliance of Coticules, as I will never find out the charm and excellence of the Norton, becaus I'm not prepared to buy one. (I won't hesitate to try though, if I ever get the free opportunity).

RESPECTFULLY
But of course, respectfully. I like your open and direct honesty.

SHAM

Best regards,
Bart.