Thread: Measles

Originally Posted by onimaru55

Indeed it is & it's totally dedicated to preventing infection so why bypass all the initial defence response by turbocharging pathogens directly into the body via injection.
I'm not against protecting children just the delivery system. I don't see it as logical.




When I had a natural therapies practice, I had a patient that came to me who had intense flu symptoms develop after his shot. He was sick for two weeks before he came to me for treatment & like you he refused to ever have another one.

Sorry to say, but I'm in that crowd, too.

I remember my classmates with braces and deformities. I also remember the long lines going thru the building, while we all got our shots. So I know I've been vaccinated.

Ohio doesn't, and will not let a child in a school, till they've had all their shots, and approved by a doctor.

I never knew till later in life, why some of my classmates were like they were. I wasn't supposed to ask people, why. It was impolite, mom said. Quite, sad.

I guess most folks born in the 60s and beyond have no experience or frame of reference to how short life can be and how cruel nature can be. I dare say most folks alive today are beneficiaries of modern medicine and science. Without it a large percentage of us wouldn't be here. Either our folks would have died at young ages or we would have.

I also dare say if some pathogen started wiping us out like flies see how fast the anti vaxxers would start clamoring for someone to do something.

As far as the older flu vaccines go they were made from a weakened form of the bug and it was common to get mildly sick after getting the shot. Some would get quite sick but not as sick as the flu could do. Those formulas haven't been used in a long time now. I don't know anyone who has gotten sick from the flu shot in a very long time.

Originally Posted by BobH

Just for chuckles read about the Spanish Flu Pandemic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

For another chuckle google how allopathic treatments for that flu lost 30% of their patients whereas homoeopaths lost less than 2%
If your only tool is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
20 years of experience as a homoeopath taught me there are feasible alternatives to many illnesses.

Originally Posted by onimaru55

For another chuckle google how allopathic treatments for that flu lost 30% of their patients whereas homoeopaths lost less than 2%
If your only tool is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
20 years of experience as a homoeopath taught me there are feasible alternatives to many illnesses.

During the 1918 Spanish Flu global pandemic there was no vaccine available but I imagine there were homeopaths even then. That would make comparisons to flu vaccines introduced much later very difficult.

Bob

Stuff I found in 5 minutes.


This is without doing actual research like I have done before. When I had cancer and had a kidney removed the doctors told me, "from now on get the flu shot." Previous to that I did not typically get it. Because of the high risk of overloading my remaining kidney with all the NSAIDs for such a long period of time to keep from dying from the flu now I get it every year. The chances of you having a serious reaction to just about any vaccine is really very low compared to the chances of you getting and dying from the illness it is made to prevent. Just look at the statistics...from reputable sources not the tin foil hat crowd.
It goes beyond even this though. If you want to get liquored up and drive around on your private property then you have the right to kill yourself if you want to. As soon as you drive down my street you give up that right. You do not have the right to endanger me with your reckless behavior. The same applies for vaccinating children. The second you stick your non-vaccinated child in a classroom next to mine you have violated my rights.

Just as a filler:
I did not get a flue shot last spring. After an Ambulance ride, I spent two days in ICU starting with 105 degree F fever.
Then, because the cure for the flu screwed up my INR, Another two days in ICU and a week in recovery.
and cost my insurance company " a lot "

Ain't nothing to screw 'round with!

~geezer

As far as getting a mild form of an illness from a vaccine versus the possible outcome of getting a disease for which vaccines are available and produced with good quality control, I’d rather be a little sick than a lot dead.

Originally Posted by Geezer

Just as a filler:
I did not get a flue shot last spring. After an Ambulance ride, I spent two days in ICU starting with 105 degree F fever.
Then, because the cure for the flu screwed up my INR, Another two days in ICU and a week in recovery.
and cost my insurance company " a lot "

Ain't nothing to screw 'round with!

~geezer

Amen to that my friend. Very often people have a bad cold And think it is the flu or maybe they have type B which is nowhere near as bad. If you've ever had type A especially any of the avian varieties you know that the flu is nothing to play around with. That is a very very serious illness and a lot of people die with it every year. I just posted something about that in another thread: about two and a half to three years ago I had type A flu, the H1N1 strain and I really seriously thought I was going to die with it at one point. I think I've only been that sick a time or two in my life. The only other time I can remember being that sick is when I had type A hepatitis when I was 2 years old. People are so cavalier talking about diseases and vaccines and things like that. Get a really serious illness one time and wind up in the ICU and then tell me the same thing again.

The one that I have been dealing with and concerned about lately is Norovirus.

No vaccine for that one yet..........

Originally Posted by 32t

The one that I have been dealing with and concerned about lately is Norovirus.

No vaccine for that one yet..........

Yup, there is not a vaccine for everything. Just hope they can keep any future outbreaks of Ebola isolated to Africa because there is not a lot of vaccines out there for that one too. With the speed of international travel these days isolating it is not a sure thing.

Bob