Thread: Local news on Covid 19

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

That's an issue for medical ethicists to work out.

It may seem harsh but do you deny survival to a million because one got really sick or died?

As to Glen's friend, she might have been one of the unlucky few to get a really bad reaction but ask someone who spent a month in a hospital on a ventilator and survived with serious damage if they would gladly suffer those side effects to never have had to be in a hospital.

Yes, I'm not altruistic enough to be that one in a million.
There is also no guarantee that side effects will not have a permanent impact on future health. There are a lot of strong opinions on this & I'm really not trying to convince any one in either direction.
As Glen's friend said #youdoyou #Illdome

Originally Posted by Bill31521

The odds according to the stats we have of dying from a covid vaccine are very low. Youre more likely to get struck by lightning. Regarding blood clots for the J and J vaccine. The odds were one in a million. Birth control pills lead to blood clots in approximately 1 out of 10,000. DO women ever get blood clots from any other reason? Im sure. You have to include mortality statistics in this equation. SOme people die every day from whatever. Life insurance rates show this clearly. The older you get the higher chance you have of dying. One other thing. If someone wakes up one morning, drinks a cup of coffee and drops dead of a heart attack, was it the coffee? What if someone drank a glass of water then keeled over? Was it the water? Ive heard stories about people dying on the toilet. Was it the toilet? Millions and millions of doses were given. How many people die every day in the US? WHat were the stats a year ago or better yet pre covid? Very complicated equation. The wife took a trip. Shes been vaccinated many weeks before. Gets a rough cold and cough. Gets a covid test on returning. It wasnt covid, But it was a pretty rough cold. We are learning a lot from this. But my guess is there will always be unanswered questions. I got the vaccine. As did everyone else in my family including my 85 year old father. Nobody had any issues except my 22 yr old daughter. Who had a low fever for a day. Young women statistically have the most issues. Get it or dont get it? Thats up to you. Theres a million reasons to do or not do anything. Eventually we will know more about it.

Life is full of what ifs and variables and coincidences and decisions we make and those we don't and our own genetic makeup and the list goes on and on.

Throw a rock in a pond and you get circles and eddies that extend all the way out even when you can't see it anymore. Do it again and the pattern is different. Some think that's how time is and our lives are.

There are too many things we have little or no control over so if there is something we can control why not do it?

They haven't tested it enough

Same Timeline

Another friend from CO, her Mom and Dad is who I worked for back in the day

"I'm so sorry that it got to the point where you felt you had to do this to make other people more comfortable. Focus on you and your body. Ultimately, you are the expert on you. My mom also felt pressure to get it and she has never been more sick in her life. She was so bad for 2 weeks we thought we were going to lose her. Massive migraines, steady temp of 104 for almost 6 days straight, shivering, she passed out and hurt herself. She is still not the same after getting it and feels like crap. She said that she will never do that again. Honestly, having an autoimmune disease, she should have never had it to begin with.
I am glad you are safe and had your husband to help care for you. Remember, it's not our job to make other people feel more comfortable."

In less than one week the "Medical Experts" have gone from Wear a mask to protect others to
The unvaccinated must wear a mask to protect the vaccinated... and you continue to support it


I fully expect in 5 years will will be seeing the ads on late night TV

Did you get the "Jab" ??? please call 1-800-need a lawyer

Another unanswered question What are the Drug interaction reports, did they do any testing
The answer I found was NO, anyone find something different ??? I mean after all we are being told to ignore the near 4000 deaths reported to VAERS

Originally Posted by gssixgun

They haven't tested it enough

I fully expect in 5 years will will be seeing the ads on late night TV

Did you get the "Jab" ??? please call 1-800-need a lawyer

OMG +1

Although i have had the first shot of Moderna, under duress, my wife had hers so, you know.

I completely agree, I've said that from the minute vaccinations where rolled out with emergency authorization.

i don't care what anyone say's, if a drug is properly tested it wouldn't need emergency authorization.

I know someone will tell me why it's safe and that 100's of thousands of people have had it with no problems, I say just watch and wait. I hope their right.

I see three possibilities:

1) 1 800 got lawyer for the class action lawsuit.
2) The end of mankind because no babies have been born for 5 years.
3) The most likely, Zombie Apocalypse.

Just FYI you cant sue Pharma over vaccines.
The rest, oh well, not sure what to say.

63% of eligible Minnesotans have gotten at least one dose. Numbers are down. Life is returning back tp normal. Same in the UK, Isreal etc. Every country that has been vaccinating quickly. Grateful to the companies that were able to move quickly and help tackle this beast.

Originally Posted by alex1921

Just FYI you cant sue Pharma over vaccines.
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As my old Friend, Lawyer, and now Judge once told me

"There is no such thing as a Disclaimer"

Regardless of how it was implemented, or how strictly written it was, immunity from negligence does not exist FYI

All I knowns is that they have been given some pretty strong immunity. Be it the NCVIA or PREP.
But since I am not a lawyer nor a judge I will just sit back and watch what happens.

There are some entities who have been given absolute immunity from lawsuits.

Have an accidental discharge with a firearm and shoot someone? Try suing. Unless you can prove a design flaw like they did with Ruger years ago you be out of luck.

Anyone can bring a lawsuit but will it be thrown out and if not what chance do you have of being successful? It's a crap shoot.

Bob

There are several entities that have been granted immunity by Federal Statute here in the states from lawsuits. Gun companies, Pawn Shops, Manufacturers of light aircraft, to name a few. Yea, these drug outfits on the Covid team too. Also Cops with qualified immunity. You can sue their employer but not them personally but there are exceptions there.