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Thread: Ammo Shortage
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05-20-2009, 01:34 PM #91
"...BJ, If you decide that my input is personally insulting to you when I certainly mean no insult to anyone, I guess I will simply have to find some way to muddle through the rest of my life without your respect."
Icedog
You may live in any way you choose, muddle through anything, that's fine. Say what you will, I did not have to decide anything, it was pretty self-evident whom you were addressing. I did NOT find your words personally insulting. They didn't rise to that level.
I once heard "An insult is much like an alcoholic beverage, it can't hurt you if you don't accept it."
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05-20-2009, 02:28 PM #92
Slightly offtopic: are there special regulations for storing powder?
Because that amount of powder would have to be stored in a bunker over here, and from a certain weight, you'd needa special license. Not because of the weapons aspect, but for the safety / environmental aspectTil shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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05-20-2009, 02:42 PM #93
it's different from place to place. in Texas, you must get a license if you store more than 5 pounds of powder, iirc. also, I've been told you need a license from the fire marshall if you want to keep more than 10,000 primers, but I can't confirm that. it may even differ from county to county.
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05-20-2009, 03:41 PM #94
That is an excellent question sir.
the components in the house are stored inside of layers of containers
some primers are inside a cedar cigar box inside a 50cal can inside a large metal box
well shielded in other words
primers are HE in case you don't know
I keep around 10 pounds of powder in the garage and it is stored inside a cooler, inside a large metal box
this is kept in the farthest corner of the garage
The rest of the powder and primers are stored in the most climate controlled place naturally available in Florida.
The ground.
It isn't because I'm one of those "Militia Types" even though I am.
I store it in the ground for three reasons.
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It is very temperature stable.
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I keeps me from shooting it up without having to dig it up!
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Who wants that much in the house?
It is simply more than I feel I can store safely.
I would like to point out that I am not however opposed to the idea of a bunker !!
The water table is just too high here !!!
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05-20-2009, 03:43 PM #95
there is loose powder in the presses but they are far enough away from the storage area so as not to be of concern
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05-20-2009, 04:11 PM #96
I didn't realize this would turn out to be such a hot debate. I was commenting on the Ammo Shortage in Florida due to Obama madness if you will. My friends and I have concealed carry permits and frequent the local gun club, which is an outdoor range by the way. Many of them reload, and spend a good part of their visit on the ground picking up casings. I don't care to do this. I'm assuming it's cheaper this way than buying cases. Brass or what have you. I do not kill animals. I mearly shoot paper targets. If someone was to kick in my front door, yes, I'd have no trouble shooting them. I'm military trained. I'm tired of hearing about gang bangers and the lot breaking into peoples homes, killing them for no reason other than to get a few bucks for drugs, or just to pass some silly gang initiation. When home at night, I have a 12ga tactical pump shotgun within arms reach. I've seen first hand what a gun shot will do someone. if you've never seen someone die from a gunshot wound, it's a life changing event, let me tell you. I don't consider myself a violent person, nor do I consider myself a victim.
The founding fathers of the United States thought it a pretty good idea to afford us the right to form Militia's and bear arms. I'm inclined to agree with them. This thread was started to ask if anyone was having trouble finding ammo, no more. There does seem to be a run on ammo in Flordia. Our gun laws are very lax, and the Obama administration doesn't help. You can go to any gun shop here during the week, and it's packed. AR-15's are flying off the shelf. Gun stores are making a killing. As previously stated, Obama was the best thing for the gun industry....but makes it hard for us recreational shooters.Last edited by zib; 05-20-2009 at 04:15 PM. Reason: Mis spell
We have assumed control !
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05-20-2009, 04:42 PM #97
I am in favor of some sort of gun control, but I don't mind ccw. Why? foor the simple reason that ccw holders are rarely the type to go gangbanging and shooting up crowded places.
For me, a background check is a necessity.
And erhaps some sort of test to show that you can handle a gun safely.
They institued those here. And given how some people failed the test, I am glad they can no longer have guns.
And I am against full auto.
Other than that
Noone is taking my kitchen knives away from me either, and these are shaveready and at least as dangerous in close quarters as a handgun.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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05-20-2009, 05:18 PM #98
Bruno,
As I stated earlier, the State of Kentucky requires a Police Background Check. Kentucky also requires several hours of Classroom work (heavy on the Law covering guns and Concealed Carry) and a written Test covering the Classroom Instruction. The last step is the requirement to successfully pass a "Shooting Exam." The Police hold a "Shoot" at a local gun range and watch closely as the examinees shoot at a supplied target. Each target is checked by the Police and a minimum number of hits is required to pass this phase. Only after successfully completing ALL of the sections of the qualifying process, can a person apply for a Concealed Carry Permit.
The State won't let a person 'Carry' legally, until the Powers That Be are satisfied that the Permit Holder knows where, when and how they may carry, as well as understanding the applicable laws. The CCW Permit Holder must also demonstrate that they can safely handle and accurately shoot their handgun. I consider this to be prudent. I don't want a person carrying a gun, who has a Vigilante mentality. Or a person who cannot control their shots, should they need to use their gun.
Jeeter
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05-20-2009, 06:56 PM #99
I remembered, Brother Jeeter
Thanks for mentioning them earlier.
I know gun laws differ per state, but as far as I am concerned, Kentucky nailed it.
Those requirements are the correct balance between personal freedom to carry guns, and providing reasonable limitations. Imo they are not unreasonable, and if you should fail them, then you really have no business carrying one.Til shade is gone, til water is gone, Into the shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath.
To spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day
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05-21-2009, 04:46 AM #100
I myself have prior Military service, which makes it a bit easy for you to obtain a CCP.
Most statistics show that states the have Concealed carry permits have lower crime rates.We have assumed control !