Thread: Ammo Shortage

Are any Firearm Enthusisat's, mainly in the US here, having trouble finding rounds? I would buy ammo where ever it was available, Normally, Cheaper than dirt, or online, Even Wal-Mart to some extent. I don't like buying it at the range, as I feel the prices are inflated, but lately, there seems to be a run on Ammo due to the Obama administration. Anyone else feeling the pinch. I recently started vacuum sealing ammo. I have that food vacuum sealer, and thought it'd be a good idea to seal some of the high dollar rounds I have a bulk of, like Win SXT's, stuff like that....

I noticed this when I picked up my gun recently. The ammo display was devoid o'bullets.

Frankly, as an NRA member, I think the who "Obama'z cummin' fer our gunz" hysteria is a load o'hooey. He's off doing other things. I do not appreciate the manufactured fear promulgated in the 2nd Amendment Magazine and by Wayne LaPierre.

The other thing which concerns me is the idea of all the ammo being in the hands of nervous people!

Originally Posted by Elliette

I noticed this when I picked up my gun recently. The ammo display was devoid o'bullets.

Frankly, as an NRA member, I think the who "Obama'z cummin' fer our gunz" hysteria is a load o'hooey. He's off doing other things. I do not appreciate the manufactured fear promulgated in the 2nd Amendment Magazine and by Wayne LaPierre.

The other thing which concerns me is the idea of all the ammo being in the hands of nervous people!

You could not be more correct and this hysteria is the reason I left my job at Impact Guns in SLC Utah.

What is happening is the manufacturers had prices real high because commodities at the time where very high, then commodities dropped when the markets took a dive. So they create this BS hysteria about Obama so they can still sell MASSIVE amounts of ammo without lowering prices even though they are now paying very little for copper compared to a year ago. They are getting people to stock up on ammo when ammo is more expensive than ever before. The same thing with "assault weapons" theres no ban coming they don't have the political will in congress to do it. Everyone remembers how many people got voted out after the Brady Bill. The gun store owners and manufacturers are simply propagating hysteria to get around this recession, and they are REAMING good hardworking people. It makes me SICK!

I know nothing about guns so please patient try to be patient with me, are you talking about lead slugs pressed into brass casings? why do you need to vacuum seal them, I would have thought the lead-brass seal would be pretty good, how long do you intend to keep them?

Or is it rather that you don't want the outside turning green which I'm sure you would not want to put into a gun and would have to clean first (so of course you would want to seal them.)

Maybe this is slighty OT since you are more concerned with the shortage rather than sealing them, but I need to be edumacted damn it.

1. yes, there is an ammo shortage. there are 2 reasons:
a. there is a war on. it's been impossible to find 5.56mm stuff for years now
b. people are lemmings and buy into hysteria
2. there is no point in vacuum sealing ammunition. i have shot 50 year old milsurplus stuff that had been in a soggy warehouse since the Korean war and it worked just fine. if the crimp is that sloppy that you need to vacuum seal it, you shouldn't use it anyway.

in an interesting aside, i make my own ammo, and it's been getting hard to find bulk gunpowder anymore. gun shows are still your best bet for powder and primers, but do NOT buy reloaded ammunition from a gun show.

Speaking as an outsider, I think the whole notion of Obama coming for your guns is just right wing propaganda.

Even if he wanted to do it, you should credit the man with intelligence (though after 8 years of Bush, I realize that it's a new concept).
He -knows- that this will turn half the country against him, and he is having much larger issues to deal with than the restriction of guns and ammo.

Political games will be played by both parties, and he might even spread rumors to that effect. But I firmly believe that once the ammo factories can keep up with the current demand, the price will plummet because there will be no restrictions, and people will have little use for more ammo than the million rounds they already have in stock.

Originally Posted by Bruno

Speaking as an outsider, I think the whole notion of Obama coming for your guns is just right wing propaganda.

yeah, there's definitely no precedent for a democrat president making life difficult for gun owners.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

except there is.

Assault weapon ban != general ban on guns or ammo.

Originally Posted by jockeys

yeah, there's definitely no precedent for a democrat president making life difficult for gun owners.

Federal Assault Weapons Ban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

except there is.

The Clinton AWB was disastrous for the Democrats....they lost seats in the house and senate purely because of the ban. Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have come out AGAINST reinstating the AWB, or creating a new one. (btw, Harry Reid voted against the original AWB in 1994)

Obama supported a new AWB as a senator from Illinois, but now, as president of the united states, appears to have changed his position, opposing a new AWB and instead favoring better law enforcement strategies to curb inner city violence. Obama Won’t Reinstate Assault Weapons Ban | Politicususa.com

It should also be noted that Obama supported allowing concealed pistols in Washington DC, and DEFENDED Bush's policy, allowing guns in National Parks.... Obama Defends Bush Rule on Permitting Guns in National Parks - First 100 Days of Presidency - Politics FOXNews.com

The hysteria concerning gun rights coming from the ultra-right is just that, hysteria. Since Obama has become president, his record on gun rights has been very libertarian (as it should be).

I listen to Michael Savage, G. Gordon Liddy, Gun Talk and *cringe* even Rush at times.....all these guys do is claim that there is some "hidden agenda"....they ignore his voting record (since becoming president) or what he's said he would do and claim that "any moment now they're coming for your guns/ammo"....it's simply not true. Even if they did want to ban certain guns/ammo, Obama and the Dems know it's a losing battle.

Often people will point to statements or votes he made years ago when he was a junior Senator from Illinois....mainly these votes revolved around giving states and local municipalities the freedom to determine their own gun regulations. You could make the argument that this is constitutionally sound (seperation of state and federal powers)....I don't really agree with this because the 2nd Amendment clearly enumerates the right to bear arms in the FEDERAL Constitution....

But remember that he was REPRESENTING ILLINOIS, at a time when there was a HUGE violence problem in Chicago.....this is a whole different ballgame than representing the entire United States. I think Obama understands this, and that's why his position on this issue has become much more libertarian.

Anyway, point and case...until he actually proposes legislation or starts making scary statements, lay off the guy. Just my $0.02 =)