Thread: Here we go

Originally Posted by Hirlau

You're going to have to find someone else to fight with Ryan. Not today my friend.

I never said I was fighting. Everyone else gave some form of rationale why they will be voting for their preferred candidate except for you. An opinion without rationale is cheerleading.

BTW - for fairness sake I'd be willing to share MY opinion, but since this is not my country's election my opinion means squat. That doesn't mean I'm not interested nor informed, since our economies are so intertwined the outcome DOES mean something to me....

Not today my friend..

Originally Posted by Hirlau

You're going to have to find someone else to fight with Ryan. Not today my friend.

This is the part where you provide statistical evidence and they accuse you of mindlessly puking up talking points. Sometimes discretion is indeed the better part of valor. Well played good Sir.

I myself didn't take the poll, I think my political leanings are very well known by now. For the new guys, I wouldn't vote Democrat at gunpoint (in this election or any other.) That's all I have to say about that. I guess we'll see what we see.

Gentlemen, I thank you for keeping this civil!

I don't think it will be any surprise to anyone in "The Conversation" that I think Obama will win, and will vote for him again.

Long and the short of it come down to this:

The Economy - Moody's analytics predicts that 12 million jobs by 2016 will be created no matter who is president. Fair enough. Whoever wins, it will continue to get better.

Socially - I don't think government should dictate who can do what with their personal lives. Period. If you are gay and want to get married, serve in the military, etc...great! I never got the "small government unless it applies to your personal life and I don't agree with it" thing coming from my conservative friends.

Internationally - I think The President represents us better internationally (to those he isn't attacking with drones, that is...but I guess both sides are cool with that)...not so much bravado, has always taken on an attitude of "we are one of many great countries in this world and we all need to work together"...which I respect and think probably goes down a little better. I also REALLY don't want to go to war with Iran (or anyone else, for that matter)...and I feel like Romney will be a little more cavalier about giving Isreal carte blanche to take us into war.

Quality of Life At Home - I don't know if Obamacare is THE BEST option, but I do feel like we need to have a better health care system for our people...we have the #1 expenditure per capita in the world and got edged out by Costa Rica to take #37 on the World Health Organization rankings for best health care. So, is Obamacare the answer? I don't know...but it feels like a step in the right direction. I don't trust corporations motivated by profits to look out for the best interest of peoples health...I expect them to look out for the best interest of their bottom line, and that's fine in some cases...but leave anything having to do with my health out of that, please.

I could go on, but I won't. I don't like the aforementioned drone strikes, I don't like the NDAA, but it seems both parties are cool with that...so what are you going to do. More than anything I wish the process didn't bring out the worst in us as a country as it seems to have this year. Obama is not a crazy muslim socialist...Romney isn't some Mormon Mr. Burns who is bored with ruling corporations and so he wants a new challenge. They both have good intentions, I'm sure...and whoever wins, things probably won't be THAT much different. So it seems it certainly isn't worth all the vitrol and billions of dollars spent.

As a European I find that I have faith in Obama in the way that I did George Bush Snr and Ronald Regan before him. Alas I was never comfortable with Bush Jnr not Clinton as being the right man to be leading the most powerful nation on earth.

I suspect that the republican party has the better policies to take America forward in the most positive way, but what I have seen of Romney does not fill me with confidence. In my opinion Obama has done a reasonable job given the state of the world economy and the way he has basically severed the special relationship between the US & UK (which started with Regan and Thatcher) reflects the true world order IMO.

Well, not that it matters a whit who I think will win, but I voted for Mr Obama of the Democrat Party. My rationale for doing so is that I always vote in alpha-numerical order.

James.

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Gentlemen the Redskins Rule which is a "Highly" scientific way of determining the outcome of the Presidential election is in effect and pointing toward Romney for the win

Yes, but that ignores an even *more* scientific method I heard about tonight: sales of chia pets in the likenesses of both candidates

The owner of the company that makes chia pets has confirmed that Obama holds a commanding lead in sales of presidential candidate chia pets.

I am going to make a point of reading this thread two days after the election! It'll be really weird me thinks... kind of like reading the Sandy thread after all was said and done was .

Originally Posted by earcutter

I am going to make a point of reading this thread two days after the election! It'll be really weird me thinks... kind of like reading the Sandy thread after all was said and done was .

Considering how close the polls have it, two days after the election may not have given us a decision. Some are predicting that we won't have a winner until after Friday.