Thread: Guns Guns and MORE Guns

Originally Posted by sharptonn

So I suppose your moderator is what we would call a silencer, Jamie?

Yes, Tom, silencers, most shooters in the UK use them on their rifles, you will need to apply for one when you apply for your firearms licence, there's no problem getting one but you need a firearms licence to own one, it will also come stamped with the calibre of your rifle on it.

Originally Posted by celticcrusader

Yes, Tom, silencers, most shooters in the UK use them on their rifles, you will need to apply for one when you apply for your firearms licence, there's no problem getting one but you need a firearms licence to own one, it will also come stamped with the calibre of your rifle on it.

I might be wrong but I seem to remember it wasn't as easy as just applying for a firearms license.

My friend had a shotgun and before he got a license he had to prove he had permission of a farmer to shoot , pidgeons I think it was. He also had to prove he had a lockable gun cabinet to keep it in.

Unless you were in the country , a firearm (shotgun) licence was hard to come by and if you lived in the city, you could just about forget it.

As for as handguns, never even seen one in the UK.

Course I could be completely wrong, I had no firearm experience outside the Army.

Originally Posted by STF

I might be wrong but I seem to remember it wasn't as easy as just applying for a firearms license.

My friend had a shotgun and before he got a license he had to prove he had permission of a farmer to shoot , pidgeons I think it was. He also had to prove he had a lockable gun cabinet to keep it in.

Unless you were in the country , a firearm (shotgun) licence was hard to come by and if you lived in the city, you could just about forget it.

As for as handguns, never even seen one in the UK.

Course I could be completely wrong, I had no firearm experience outside the Army.

Steve, yes indeed, there are many terms and conditions before you will be granted a firearms licence in the UK, you get home visits from the Firearms officer, you must give full permission to the police so they can access all your medical records, you also need two independent referees who know you well and are not family members, permission from landowners, the land must have Police clearance for use of firearms you also need a doctor to clear you and say you are mentally fit to own a firearm, plus you need a bolted secure gun cabinet, there is also a restriction on the amount of ammunition you can own, it's difficult to own a firearm or shotgun in the UK, I do predict the US will eventually go in the same direction as the UK making it a real pain in the butt and putting a lot of people off applying.

Seems here you must pony-up 200 and fill out a form and wait. I guess they do background checks as with a firearm purchase.

I fired a friends CZ Scorpion with one a bit. Quite (or quiet?) nice.

They seem to vilify silencers. I had read where as you apply, you are subject to search so no components, kits, or actual silencers better not show up before you are approved. YET they sell air rifles with them attached. I might get one for my air rifle. After investigating, of course.

They were selling some called solvent traps a while back. The ruse is that as cleaning a firearm, it captures the solvent when cleaning the bore.
Then, they have adapters to use screw-on oil filters. Silly.

The feds can do as they please. I prefer to keep my name off of lists for some reason.
Still, a 500 investment is nothing to sneeze at before all is said and done.

Originally Posted by sharptonn

Seems here you must pony-up 200 and fill out a form and wait. I guess they do background checks as with a firearm purchase.

I fired a friends CZ Scorpion with one a bit. Quite (or quiet?) nice.

They seem to vilify silencers. I had read where as you apply, you are subject to search so no components, kits, or actual silencers better not show up before you are approved. YET they sell air rifles with them attached. I might get one for my air rifle. After investigating, of course.

They were selling some called solvent traps a while back. The ruse is that as cleaning a firearm, it captures the solvent when cleaning the bore.
Then, they have adapters to use screw-on oil filters. Silly.

The feds can do as they please. I prefer to keep my name off of lists for some reason.
Still, a 500 investment is nothing to sneeze at before all is said and done.

Tom, once you shoot with a moderator it's hard to go back, PCP air rifles are fantastic once fitted with one, the trouble with PCP air rifles in the UK is anything over 12lb foot per lb is the classed as a firearm, so you must then apply in the same way as you would for a firearm, I already have that variation on my certificate to own a .177 PCP over 12lb, they are now hunting big game using PCP rifles which is amazing with an incredible amount of technology.

Originally Posted by PaulFLUS

I like the look of that Rossi. That might be another option I'd consider.

Here's my only lever action.
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Model 92 Winchester (along with a Winchester razor) in 25-20 which I love except that the rounds are two bucks and change each. But that's not even the worst part. The worst part is finding them. Everywhere I check is always out and if they do have them at all it's one box of 20.
I know I should reload them but I have neither the time nor the space for that. Plus if I bring one more hobby full of paraphernalia home my wife will likely.use that lever action on me.

Love ol' Winchesters, especially the Model 1892! Any caliber or configuration will do.


Here's a Winchester Model 1892 Saddle Ring Carbine in .32-20 produced in 1896. It's still a working gun for me for it's enjoyed on hikes and hunts, prowling around our old family place. The '92 is still a practical lever-action design for today. If I could afford to pursue all the collecting tangents I'd like to pursue then I'd gather in Winchester '92s in every caliber, especially including .25-20 like yours PaulFLUS.

I have particular regard for the .32-20 cartridge as one of my very favorite cartridges and use it in both this rifle and a couple of revolvers here. The rifle has a less than perfect bore, but is tin can accurate to a hundred yards or so from a bench rest when used with its favored handloads. The .32-20s neato and part of the reason for that is it is economical to shoot, almost as cheap as the .22 Long Rifle, especially if I cast the bullets myself, which I can, but scarcely ever bother expending the time. To date its easier to order batches of cast bullets from online providers.

I fear that my safe is like the Black Hole of Calcutta. Guns go in, but can never seem to escape. Of the lot of them, about 20 are considered to be "essential" guns and this '92 Winchester is one those. I love firearms: shooting sports, hunting, collecting, handloading, and the study of it all. Not too keen on the current manufacturers' catalog offerings though.

I think I was drawn to this forum because of its content, shaving and otherwise, especially the otherwise. Have always loathed shaving, but doing it with vintage double edge razors and fiddling with the stuff connected with vintage shaving renders an onerous daily task much more entertaining.

I need to take up again with Badger & Blade as well. Was on there for some years, but got out of the habit of so much "forum-ing" when family responsibilities caring for aged parents and their loss conspired to waylay my time.

I love the 25-20 but what I'd like to get in addition is 32-20 in a model 92. That caliber is much more readily available and cheaper. $64 for a box of 50 as opposed to $99 or more makes the difference in being able to spend time at the range. It is a gas to shoot those old lever actions but I've learned to either wear a wide brimmed hat or at least button the top collar button. One spent cartridge down the back of the shirt was enough to learn me that lesson. I did learn some new dance steps too that day though.

Originally Posted by celticcrusader

Steve, yes indeed, there are many terms and conditions before you will be granted a firearms licence in the UK, you get home visits from the Firearms officer, you must give full permission to the police so they can access all your medical records, you also need two independent referees who know you well and are not family members, permission from landowners, the land must have Police clearance for use of firearms you also need a doctor to clear you and say you are mentally fit to own a firearm, plus you need a bolted secure gun cabinet, there is also a restriction on the amount of ammunition you can own, it's difficult to own a firearm or shotgun in the UK, I do predict the US will eventually go in the same direction as the UK making it a real pain in the butt and putting a lot of people off applying.

Similar though not quite as severe a run around in Canada. I sent my PAL, Possession and Acquisition License, renewal in 2 1/2 months before it expired via registered and signed for mail. I know they received it within days of sending it via the Can Post web site. It is now 2 week past the expiry date and I am still waiting. Was told by the powers to be to wait another month before panicking. They truly can't organise a one man rush to a 10 man out house. Seems to be a skit right out of Saturday Night Live. I don't mind the paper work just the the plug out and get it done.

Bob

Ahhhhh, government bureaucrasy. Ain't she a hoot?

I came across an interesting fact yesterday.

The US has 4% of the worlds population, and 46% of the worlds guns.

Not a comment on gun control just a statistic that I found interesting.