Thread: Personal Firearms

Originally Posted by Sticky

I've heard that the Ruger SP101 with 4.2" barrel is legal up there.

For handguns, it's 105mm or about 4.14" to make it legal to own as a collector or sports shooter. The law doesn't recognize any other legitimate uses of a "restricted" firearm. While you can technically use a firearm to defend your home, you will get charged with something, usually it's related to improper storage (even if you go above and beyond the letter of the law). A very small number of people are allowed to carry, but often under very tight restrictions and it's like a 1 in 100,000 thing or even more rare.

Note: We have 3 classes of firearms today and while they follow certain general trends, they're by no means consistent and often don't make sense
Non-restricted - Typically your hunting rifles and peashooters. Then again, TAR-21, SKS and CZ-858 are non-restricted and can even be taken hunting - easiest class of license to get (only one exam to take and they don't typically interview your references)
Restricted - Handguns (including .22LR ones), short barreled semi-autos, and whatever looks too mean at the moment, like the AR. Tighter licensing restriction and you have to ask for permission to take it anywhere (you can, however, get a long-term authorization to transport if you are a member of a range, which would allow you to take your restricted from home to any range in the province/international airport/border for a fixed period of time, typically 5 years iirc but don't quote me on it)
Prohibited - Anything AK-based even the Saiga or AK-based air rifles, anything full auto, midnight specials, short barrelled handguns, unfortunately the QBZ-97 ("too easily convertible to full auto") and anything else that looks even meaner than restricted. You can't really qualify for that one unless you have owned prohibs before the law came into effect or maybe by inheriting. If nobody interested in owning them inherits, your firearms get confiscated and destroyed.

Wow I never knew it was so hard to own firearms in Canada. Makes me very happy to live in the US.

I love the sp101 and It's on my list of need to buy's, bouncing between number 2 and number 3 slot.

1Sig 1911 traditional stainless compact.
2 ruger sp1010
3 kahr k40 full stainless
4 either a mossberg 500 or Remington 870 12G

Originally Posted by Devilpup

Wow I never knew it was so hard to own firearms in Canada. Makes me very happy to live in the US.

I was poking around the intertubes discovered why guns are so restricted in Canada: http://web.orange.co.uk/article/quir...tle_with_mouse

Speaking of Rugers..... a 44spl Bisley on the 357 mag frame. Still mighty heavy but not as bad as a super blackhawk. I put in a kit that makes the new model have a 'half cock' for reloading and that lovely sound the old ones have ..... if you know what I mean.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Speaking of Rugers..... a 44spl Bisley on the 357 mag frame. Still mighty heavy but not as bad as a super blackhawk. I put in a kit that makes the new model have a 'half cock' for reloading and that lovely sound the old ones have ..... if you know what I mean.

That's mighty nice looking. I was thinking about a new Blackhawk but they feel too different from the older ones. I might end up with a Redhawk one of these days.

Originally Posted by TrilliumLT

Im not a fan of ppl carrying fire arm for protection. In my mind that just equals more trouble. Going to the firing range, No problems. Hunting, Good for you for putting food on the table and getting a chance to enjoy the great out doors.

even though I think you're dead wrong, I hope you don't have to become dead to see the error in your thinking. I've been carrying a gun for over 30 years, never had an accident, never had to go off for no reason, and never had to kill anyone, however the fact that it was in my waistband and I could make it visible has saved me more than a couple times. Just my two cents.
As for the other side of this conversation, in the summer I still like my PPK,or my mod.60.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

For handguns, it's 105mm or about 4.14" to make it legal to own as a collector or sports shooter. The law doesn't recognize any other legitimate uses of a "restricted" firearm. While you can technically use a firearm to defend your home, you will get charged with something, usually it's related to improper storage (even if you go above and beyond the letter of the law). A very small number of people are allowed to carry, but often under very tight restrictions and it's like a 1 in 100,000 thing or even more rare.

Note: We have 3 classes of firearms today and while they follow certain general trends, they're by no means consistent and often don't make sense
Non-restricted - Typically your hunting rifles and peashooters. Then again, TAR-21, SKS and CZ-858 are non-restricted and can even be taken hunting - easiest class of license to get (only one exam to take and they don't typically interview your references)
Restricted - Handguns (including .22LR ones), short barreled semi-autos, and whatever looks too mean at the moment, like the AR. Tighter licensing restriction and you have to ask for permission to take it anywhere (you can, however, get a long-term authorization to transport if you are a member of a range, which would allow you to take your restricted from home to any range in the province/international airport/border for a fixed period of time, typically 5 years iirc but don't quote me on it)
Prohibited - Anything AK-based even the Saiga or AK-based air rifles, anything full auto, midnight specials, short barrelled handguns, unfortunately the QBZ-97 ("too easily convertible to full auto") and anything else that looks even meaner than restricted. You can't really qualify for that one unless you have owned prohibs before the law came into effect or maybe by inheriting. If nobody interested in owning them inherits, your firearms get confiscated and destroyed.

have you guys in the great White North ever thought about electing people that might let you defend yourselves, think for yourselves, and defend yourselves? I'd rather have a small 22 in my pocket than nothing. And according to your laws. I wouldn't be able to carry even my little Beretta 22 short, which is a real peashooter but certainly better than nothing. If you poke a few holes in somebody with it.

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

have you guys in the great White North ever thought about electing people that might let you defend yourselves, think for yourselves, and defend yourselves? I'd rather have a small 22 in my pocket than nothing. And according to your laws. I wouldn't be able to carry even my little Beretta 22 short, which is a real peashooter but certainly better than nothing. If you poke a few holes in somebody with it.

Too many antis on this side of the border, mostly due to lack of exposure to real firearms. Many think that the AK will walk out of the safe and start killing babies on its own. Our current government made a very small step in the right direction and sacked the long gun registry, plus they might even institute the castle doctrine if there's enough popular support for it.

That's good to hear!

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Here are two of mine. The one is a tangent sight with slotted back strap. A modern made in Belgium back in the '80s IIRC. You can see the larger ambidextrous thumb safety on that one. The matte black fixed sight model is the one I removed the mag safety from. Made it like a different trigger. From hard and creepy to crisp and smooth. Attachment 101971Attachment 101972

Jimmy, one question, those are a couple of very nice pistols, But when carying something of that size would'nt you prefer the wallop of a 45? I've never compared them side to side but I think my commander is a little smaller and lighter and packs a bigger punch.