Thread: Personal Firearms

Darn, I didn't know they made 00Buck for a .45.??





...............just kidding.......

That looks like the groups out if my lcp at 20 yards.

Agreed! Para 1911 double stack with hogue grips works well for me!

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

There was a case where a young lady in a major urban area was being raped and strangled for 18 minutes from the time she called the police to say that someone was trying to break into her apartment.

What some of my fellow Canadians do not seem to realize is that in the US, the middle class is very small and there are masses of people desperate enough to kill or die for what little scraps there are out there. They don't have the social nets like free healthcare and decent public education like we do here. Turns a lot of people into predatory animals and the means to protect yourself and your family become more necessary than they are in countries like Sweden or Germany.

I am sensing some condescension here. First of all, we have a very large middle-class but we also have a very large poorer class also and by and large things are just fine. And as freemen, we don't really want as many "social nets"as our friends in the North like. But carrying a weapon actually makes you a more responsible citizen. At least that's been my experience. I've been carrying for over 35 years and it has saved my ass more than once without even having to pull it. Oh let's not forget the upper class, they just hire people from the middle class will license to carry and we do just fine here. Thanks.
I hope I just misunderstood the way I read it.

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

And as freemen, we don't really want as many "social nets"as our friends in the North like.

I'll apologize in advance for posting and running as I'm hitting the road again tomorrow and generally steer well clear of discussions related to firearms due to the very different social, legal, and historical realities that exist in my country and in that of our neighbours to the south.

However, the 'sensing some condescension' phrase caught my eye and so I clicked on the post and did a bit of reading. And of course it led straight into a condescending comment regarding freedom.

Your post suggests that you are free while I, my fellow countrymen, and presumably others who do not share your view of freedom are not. Please do not mistake the choice of a different collective path by countries other than one's own as constituting a lack of freedom. I live in a free country, as do many hundreds of millions of other human beings who do not happen to live in the United States of America. You are free. I am free. People living in the UK, Norway, France, Germany, Japan, etc., and so on, are free. In each of these countries, this freedom is expressed in a manner appropriate to that particular society.

So let's not dump on each other and our respective societies for what ultimately are relatively insignificant differences. The fact that we are able to enjoy our own brand of freedom is something that should be celebrated as one of humanity's greatest achievements because the vast majority of people throughout the vast majority of human history have not enjoyed freedom of any kind.

MWS:
Looks like you are right handed and that 1911 needs a trigger job by looking at the target.

If you are left handed you are "pushing", anticipating the recoil. Relax, the 1911 is a pussycat as long as you are on the "right" end.

Thanks for posting, some of my targets look like this when I am trying drawing & instinct shooting drills on the move. That's what practice is all about, getting them all on paper. You might also pick up some orange spots for the 10 ring...helps if you aim small...you miss small.

Originally Posted by shooter74743

MWS:
Looks like you are right handed and that 1911 needs a trigger job by looking at the target.

If you are left handed you are "pushing", anticipating the recoil. Relax, the 1911 is a pussycat as long as you are on the "right" end.

Thanks for posting, some of my targets look like this when I am trying drawing & instinct shooting drills on the move. That's what practice is all about, getting them all on paper. You might also pick up some orange spots for the 10 ring...helps if you aim small...you miss small.

I got the rings and will use them for my next time out, good tip. Also looking for a pistol mentor at the range to help sight it in. I do think I'm flinching a bit - when I bought some ammo the guy behind the counter had some raised eyebrows...thought it was a tad big for my first...and flinching can be habit forming.

I would recommend the walmart 230 grain full metal jacket in the white box at walmart is what i would recommend for practice fodder. Save your brass.

Originally Posted by Cangooner

I'll apologize in advance for posting and running as I'm hitting the road again tomorrow and generally steer well clear of discussions related to firearms due to the very different social, legal, and historical realities that exist in my country and in that of our neighbours to the south.

However, the 'sensing some condescension' phrase caught my eye and so I clicked on the post and did a bit of reading. And of course it led straight into a condescending comment regarding freedom.

Your post suggests that you are free while I, my fellow countrymen, and presumably others who do not share your view of freedom are not. Please do not mistake the choice of a different collective path by countries other than one's own as constituting a lack of freedom. I live in a free country, as do many hundreds of millions of other human beings who do not happen to live in the United States of America. You are free. I am free. People living in the UK, Norway, France, Germany, Japan, etc., and so on, are free. In each of these countries, this freedom is expressed in a manner appropriate to that particular society.

So let's not dump on each other and our respective societies for what ultimately are relatively insignificant differences. The fact that we are able to enjoy our own brand of freedom is something that should be celebrated as one of humanity's greatest achievements because the vast majority of people throughout the vast majority of human history have not enjoyed freedom of any kind.

To each his own.................

Originally Posted by Grizzley1

To each his own.................

Agreed.. And I apologized if I sounded condescending, but I was really aiming to just provide relevant facts for the discussion and poverty rates definitely influence the level of gun crime in a country. A person from Norway could give us the same argument as we lean significantly right of them and don't manage our natural resources as well as they do - to the detriment of the society in general, but that's the way we decided to run our country. I'm not trying to get into a debate as to which way is "better". However, countries with a high level of economic disparity will experience higher crime rates and the middle class will be more accessible as victims of violent crimes than the nobility (whatever you wanna call that class). That necessitates for the middle class to be better protected in countries like the US or Chile and the gun laws will often reflect that.