Thread: Personal Firearms

Im not a fan of ppl carrying fire arm for protection. In my mind that just equals more trouble. Going to the firing range, No problems. Hunting, Good for you for putting food on the table and getting a chance to enjoy the great out doors.

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

I agree,the right to carry crowd has a thought process that dictates they will come out on top in some sort of faceoff with another who is armed,the reality I feel is that you now have a 50/50 chance of being killed.

Around here they don't just rob you. They rob you then they shoot you. I am not exaggerating. I'd rather have a fighting chance than depend on the goodwill of someone who is confronting me with a firearm.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Around here they don't just rob you. They rob you then they shoot you. I am not exaggerating. I'd rather have a fighting chance than depend on the goodwill of someone who is confronting me with a firearm.

And also, carrying a firearm gives you the choice if you have an opportunity. It doesn't mean that you're automatically obligated to become John Kersey.

I used to carry an auto 380, but one night while hunting I decided to shoot off a couple; it failed to fire. I realized then that my 38 special was going back to being my carry. Revolvers rule when it comes to reliability.

Originally Posted by TrilliumLT

Im not a fan of ppl carrying fire arm for protection. In my mind that just equals more trouble. Going to the firing range, No problems. Hunting, Good for you for putting food on the table and getting a chance to enjoy the great out doors.

Just remember that when you're in trouble and seconds count, the police are minutes away.

I'm all about my guns for fun at the range, hunting, and protection. However, I do believe that there should be some sort of mandated training and recertification for concealed carry. $150 plus 250-500 rounds of ammo for the day isn't cheap but being required to do a basic pistol or concealed pistol class from good instructors (magpul dynamics, redback one, grey group, vickers shooting method, etc) every 3-5 years is just a good idea.

Originally Posted by bharner

Just remember that when you're in trouble and seconds count, the police are minutes away.

There was a case where a young lady in a major urban area was being raped and strangled for 18 minutes from the time she called the police to say that someone was trying to break into her apartment.

Originally Posted by JimmyHAD

Around here they don't just rob you. They rob you then they shoot you. I am not exaggerating. I'd rather have a fighting chance than depend on the goodwill of someone who is confronting me with a firearm.

What some of my fellow Canadians do not seem to realize is that in the US, the middle class is very small and there are masses of people desperate enough to kill or die for what little scraps there are out there. They don't have the social nets like free healthcare and decent public education like we do here. Turns a lot of people into predatory animals and the means to protect yourself and your family become more necessary than they are in countries like Sweden or Germany.

Originally Posted by bharner

Just remember that when you're in trouble and seconds count, the police are minutes away.

I'm all about my guns for fun at the range, hunting, and protection. However, I do believe that there should be some sort of mandated training and recertification for concealed carry. $150 plus 250-500 rounds of ammo for the day isn't cheap but being required to do a basic pistol or concealed pistol class from good instructors (magpul dynamics, redback one, grey group, vickers shooting method, etc) every 3-5 years is just a good idea.

Thats Only a problem if you live in a country with a epidemic of gun crime.

Originally Posted by FiReSTaRT

What some of my fellow Canadians do not seem to realize is that in the US, the middle class is very small and there are masses of people desperate enough to kill or die for what little scraps there are out there. They don't have the social nets like free healthcare and decent public education like we do here. Turns a lot of people into predatory animals and the means to protect yourself and your family become more necessary than they are in countries like Sweden or Germany.

I live in an area where there is an active gang culture. Young men, many times with little education, or parental guidance. The ACLU has emasculated LEOs and the school teachers from disciplining kids decades ago. For many of these young people movies such as Reservoir Dogs or Pulp Fiction are where they get their role models. A culture that takes a novel about serial killers and morphs it into a movie where the serial killer, Hannibal, is the 'hero'. Scripted to be a sympathetic character. They say you can judge a culture by it's art. Whut up dawg ?

Originally Posted by TrilliumLT

Thats Only a problem if you live in a country with a epidemic of gun crime.

LOL. We may have issues with gun crime down here but at least we have the freedom to own them.
I'd say the bigger issue is the destitute folks in urban areas who don't have anything to lose and who don't have the wherewithal to move out so they turn to crime.
We may lack some of the social safetey nets you Canuks have but I'm not a huge fan of government entitlement programs without massive restrictions on them.

Once someone is used to getting paid just to be alive and/or pop out babies with few restrictions (see our crappy welfare, foodstamps, ssi/ssdi programs in the US) they feel entitled to things because they are used to getting money with no output from them and have no issues taking from others (because the govt is taking from others to keep them alive).

Sorry to go O/T there... but basically we need to just destroy most urban areas in the US and start from scratch

Originally Posted by pixelfixed

I agree,the right to carry crowd has a thought process that dictates they will come out on top in some sort of faceoff with another who is armed,the reality I feel is that you now have a 50/50 chance of being killed.

It's just not allowing yourself to be a victim.