Thread: The Butchered Blade

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You are getting there, but yes it looks quite deep still. Are you going free hand or with a support block while sanding?
Could always drop back to 180 using some support, ie paint stir stick with the paper wrapped around it.
Also, go with swirls not unidirectional while sanding at the first stage. Removes metal faster if you keep attacking your scratch pattern from different directions. I personal don't start to try to sand for finish until up around 400g. After I have the blade to the base metal I want.
Nice Irish point BTW leatherstockings.
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I'm using a wooden board to rest the blade on and wine corks to wrap my paper around. For some of the flat spots I will rest the paper on the board and rub the blade over it allowing me to add more pressure.

I'm doing circles at this point and not unidirectional sanding strokes. I am also varying the size and direction of the circles.

Good advise from Shaun above on the sandpaper. I was going to say 600, but 1000 is a bit more gentle.
Remember to swoop the blade, keeping the spine in contact. Rolling x-strokes. Should not take long to see clean metal in the bevel. I think it will be OK in that respect.

In sanding the blade, remember every time you deviate from the up and down strokes, it is going to take a while to get circular and longways scratches out.

Been reading the posts on honing, and I think I'm gonna need a workshop/class to really get it.. just so much going on on the learning front with restoration/custom, and also brushes that my mind is swimming a bit.
Cleaning top to bottom the house, got a family reunion this weekend at my fathers house so i doubt I'll get much work done on SR..
Perhaps Sunday. Looks like you guys are passing on some good info on honing tonight!
Thanks for the good read, this is my refuge from the hectic fam-dam!
I have had blades that had those "shadows"/spots that went deep... very strange. Just spots of discolored metal going even deeper than the pits...

True story, meets and get to gathers are the very best way to learn to hone, even of you can hone, meets and get togethers will kick it up a notch or three! If you want to plan a week at my place it's all good!
Most people want to pick that week during fishing season though.

Keep your stones flat (lapped), and your blades, flat to the stone.

Elbo, slightly above the height of the stone and kinda locked. No body movement, just your arm.

Nice fluid motions , back n forth, watch the water in front of the edge.

MESMERIZED!!!!!

Each blade style hones differently, thats the only difference I've come to learn. Some work better with x stroke, some rolling x stroke. It's just a learning curve.

I too would like a sit in with someone who hones, just to see how I compare.

But feel my abilities are quite good.
My face doesn't complain!
And magnification doesn't lie.

The abilities you've shown here on this thread, proves you'll succeed at honing.

I have some family commitments,too. I'm not sure I'll have internet access for Saturday and Sunday. I've been trying to get some vintage hones (arkies I think) from a family member. Maybe this will be when that finally happens.

Originally Posted by RezDog

True story, meets and get to gathers are the very best way to learn to hone, even of you can hone, meets and get togethers will kick it up a notch or three! If you want to plan a week at my place it's all good!
Most people want to pick that week during fishing season though.

That is what I gotta do. Thanks for the offer! I wish! I'm booked for the next 2 years on promised vacations for my wife and family visits.. I'm gonna have to just tell her that I've got some mandatory SR meetings! But NOT during fishing season.. lol

Originally Posted by outback

MESMERIZED!!!!!

Each blade style hones differently, thats the only difference I've come to learn. Some work better with x stroke, some rolling x stroke. It's just a learning curve.

I too would like a sit in with someone who hones, just to see how I compare.
The abilities you've shown here on this thread, proves you'll succeed at honing.

Thanks man! And yes, gonna have to go to a meet. Where did you learn all?

Originally Posted by Leatherstockiings

I have some family commitments,too. I'm not sure I'll have internet access for Saturday and Sunday. I've been trying to get some vintage hones (arkies I think) from a family member. Maybe this will be when that finally happens.

Honing is a whole-nother world too! All these stones and pastes and techniques... balance that with family... that's a challenge!

Morning gents!
Indeed Mike honing is a whole pursuit of it's own. Taking my time on this one at the bevel set stage.
Started with a 1k king and two layers of tape on the spine. Was starting to show a gap on the rear inch on the one side of the blade where the bevel just seemed o trail off an inch before the heel. Start trying to concentrate on that area, still on the king, no real improvement.
Said "walk away" last night.
So far this AM I switched to a narrower bbw/coti and have stayed on the blue side with slurry. Focused rolling X's are starting to pull it back in.
Pics to follow.
So yes, imo lots of different paths to get to the shave state we seek. And getting together at a meet as others have indicated, pays huge gains in competence and confidence. Also a great way to try stones you don't already own.
Happy weekend lads.

Originally Posted by MikeT

That is what I gotta do. Thanks for the offer! I wish! I'm booked for the next 2 years on promised vacations for my wife and family visits.. I'm gonna have to just tell her that I've got some mandatory SR meetings! But NOT during fishing season.. lol


Thanks man! And yes, gonna have to go to a meet. Where did you learn all?

Honing is a whole-nother world too! All these stones and pastes and techniques... balance that with family... that's a challenge!

I've learned from my grandfather and father, at least what they could teach me. And one police officer, who showed me how using rocks from the ground. These were all based on knives not razors.
But it taught me to keep the same angle of degree on both sides of the blade, same stroke , same pressure.

I've always had a great fascination with how sharp I could hone somthing since I was 7-8 years old.
Didn't matter what it was, as long as it would shave hair off my arm effortlessly. Knives, carving tools, machetes, hatchets, axes, ice auger blades, which are quite tricky, being the bevel changes across the lenth of the blade, made of swiss steel and as hard as razor steel.

The honing of razors I find to be alot easier, cause all i got to do is keep it flat to the stone.
Knives and such, you have to keep the the same angle in the blade by hand, eye, and feel (I use no mechanical guides) all by hand and feel. The blade always tells me where it needs to be on relation to the hone, I just feel it. Just like razors tell me when I've reached a bevel ( they seem to dig in a bit more, and the slurry rushes up the blade evenly.

Alot of years doing it helps greatly, finding SRP has escalated my abilties by learning about the hones specifically made for razors, and the different honing methods used on different blade styles and shapes.

My motto: I have no use for anything dull, in my life. [emoji6]

Next up on the repair list is my round nose ARTIST.
Lots of pitts, chips, tarnish, rust and uneven edge.
Will use the template and purple hart wood, from my square point ARTIST.
LOTS!! Of work ahead for this one, may have to remove part of the stabilizer to remove the chip in the heel and facilitate a bit of a smile.
I have no idea how my Wentworth got in the pics. That was a SOTD pic from some time back!!

Puzzled.......[emoji47]