Thread: The Ukraine Situation

Yeas, pretty sure you are right that it is a moot point now. Don't worry though, I am pretty sure Putin will give us other opportunities to test the West's will to go to war with him. The only other slim hope would be that Russia itself will replace Putin in the future.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

Yeas, pretty sure you are right that it is a moot point now. Don't worry though, I am pretty sure Putin will give us other opportunities to test the West's will to go to war with him. The only other slim hope would be that Russia itself will replace Putin in the future.

Bob

Short of assisinating him I doubt he can be replaced. Didn't he make himself president for life not too long ago?

Originally Posted by STF

Short of assisinating him I doubt he can be replaced.

That is the faint hope clause. OTH remember the Czar and his family. If it happens just hope there is not a worse replacement.

Bob

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Would you please sign and spread the petition among friends and family?
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Originally Posted by gssixgun

Pretty much a moot point now

The west has accepted the killing of Civilians
The west is ok with suppling weapons to increase the body count on both sides
Pretty much the Media has moved to the talk of where Russia is going to draw the new border

I can't say as I am disappointed in this decision looking at the leaders of the NATO countries I only see a couple that seem to have the steel needed in a situation like this.

If this was going to be stopped it would have happened on day two

Like I said a while back, if any superpower decides to invader another, weaker country there isn't much the world can do to stop them. It's no different if China invades taiwan. What if we invaded Canada?

Talk is cheap. When you say we'll confront Putin now and deal with him you are gambling with a very heavy bet. If you are wrong you lose everything. If you be right you win it all.

Are you willing to make that bet and maybe wipe out billions of folks? Being a survivalist won't help when a nuclear winter comes and nothing will grow and game dies out unless you gonna eat bugs.

The world is going to have to come up with another way to deal with guys like Putin. The problem is when it comes down to it the world will not truly come together. They only do it on the surface.

Oh, and by the way the U.S fought WWll and The Civil War and The Korean war and the Vietnam war with conscripts and we did fine. Vietnam was a cluster because of our leadership.

So I caught this from 2021......Interesting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Outv...el=UkraineNews

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Talk is cheap. When you say we'll confront Putin now and deal with him you are gambling with a very heavy bet. If you are wrong you lose everything. If you be right you win it all.

Are you willing to make that bet and maybe wipe out billions of folks? Being a survivalist won't help when a nuclear winter comes and nothing will grow and game dies out unless you gonna eat bugs.

I don't think we should invade Russia, that would quite likely start the nukes flying but, I do think we should kick him out of Ukraine and back to Russia.

You make a good point about China.
Why are we all so upset about Ukraine, is it because we love Ukrainians or that we hate Russia. Could it be because Ukraine is Europe. I do think it's terrible what Ukraine is going through and would love to see NATO kick Putin's ass home to Russia but I can't help wondering how we as a world will react if China does to Taiwan what Putin is doing to Ukraine.

I don't think the word will react nearly as strongly because

a) it's far away and a lot of us don't understand the situation in the Far East
b) Getting into it with China is more scary than with Russia

The Bible doesn't say Russia will end the world, but I believe it say's the yellow hoards will.

Originally Posted by STF

The Bible doesn't say Russia will end the world, but I believe it say's the yellow hoards will.

Could you please specify a passage in the Bible that says that?

Bob

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Like I said a while back, if any superpower decides to invader another, weaker country there isn't much the world can do to stop them. It's no different if China invades taiwan. What if we invaded Canada?

Talk is cheap. When you say we'll confront Putin now and deal with him you are gambling with a very heavy bet. If you are wrong you lose everything. If you be right you win it all.

Are you willing to make that bet and maybe wipe out billions of folks? Being a survivalist won't help when a nuclear winter comes and nothing will grow and game dies out unless you gonna eat bugs.

The world is going to have to come up with another way to deal with guys like Putin. The problem is when it comes down to it the world will not truly come together. They only do it on the surface.

Oh, and by the way the U.S fought WWll and The Civil War and The Korean war and the Vietnam war with conscripts and we did fine. Vietnam was a cluster because of our leadership.

So basically you are saying let Putin take what he wants kill who he wants and sit back and watch

Cool that is what the west is doing, you got what you wanted

10 million Ukraine children displaced from their homes
40% of the worlds wheat production stopped

Have no fear, Western Leaders are applying more sanctions taking bank accounts and mega yachts

Hey at least we are giving the Ukrainians weapons to fight with, they seem to know how to use them


Now before you think I am a warhawk, I do NOT think we should put boots on the ground or our pilots in the air

I also have serious questions about certain aspects of what has been going on in Ukraine over the last 30 years..

We should give them all the aid they need to Fight and also Humanitarian aid

To bad the US had 2+ Million illegals invade across our Southern border in the last year, we could have used some of the money we used on that, to help Ukraine ...