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    Quote Originally Posted by treydampier View Post
    This is indeed stupid. I am like Glen though here a little. The stupidity of the political left is breath-taking with their double standards as well so at least we know stupidity is lurking.
    What double standard are you referring too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCshaver View Post
    What double standard are you referring too?
    The perceived "acceptance" of hate speech made by Islamist extremists, while we condemn the hate speech made by someone who calls himself a Christian. I'm guessing that is what he refers to. I could be wrong, adn I apologize if I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    The perceived "acceptance" of hate speech made by Islamist extremists, while we condemn the hate speech made by someone who calls himself a Christian. I'm guessing that is what he refers to. I could be wrong, adn I apologize if I am.

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    Strange. I haven't noticed that. Maybe he has some examples of what he's referring too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCshaver View Post
    What double standard are you referring too?
    Well, the left more or less brushed off Obama's close relationship with Jeremiah Wright (who certainly is not a Christian). Also, because Pat is a republican and Christian any opinion he gives gets criticized. Yet a large gathering of muslims in Detroit can say whatever they want, and its "ok". The left is equally as hypocritical and stupid as those of us who lean the other way. Pat is an idiot, and that me and BJ" can agree on.
    I know Pat's problem that I was ignorant to before. Christians are supposed to be people of love, integrity, and honesty. Patty Boy is a lawyer, therefore none of the Christian virtues apply. Plus any Christian who asks you to send money lacks true faith. God does not need our money, and people who give should give from their hearts, not because a lunatic asks for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treydampier View Post
    Well, the left more or less brushed off Obama's close relationship with Jeremiah Wright (who certainly is not a Christian).
    So how is this a double standard? And why do you claim he's not a christian?
    He's was a pastor of a christian church.

    Quote Originally Posted by treydampier View Post
    Also, because Pat is a republican and Christian any opinion he gives gets criticized. Yet a large gathering of muslims in Detroit can say whatever they want, and its "ok".
    When did the left say it was ok?

    Pat gets more attention because he's famous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treydampier View Post
    Well, the left more or less brushed off Obama's close relationship with Jeremiah Wright (who certainly is not a Christian). Also, because Pat is a republican and Christian any opinion he gives gets criticized. Yet a large gathering of muslims in Detroit can say whatever they want, and its "ok". The left is equally as hypocritical and stupid as those of us who lean the other way. Pat is an idiot, and that me and BJ" can agree on.
    I know Pat's problem that I was ignorant to before. Christians are supposed to be people of love, integrity, and honesty. Patty Boy is a lawyer, therefore none of the Christian virtues apply. Plus any Christian who asks you to send money lacks true faith. God does not need our money, and people who give should give from their hearts, not because a lunatic asks for it.
    I'm not particularly fond of any outspoken religious activists including Robertson and Wright, but how is it justified that Wright appears to be mentioned as a Muslim cleric and "not a Christian"? The only thing I can find is a single article, without citations, claiming that years ago he used to be in the Nation of Islam which itself isn't really a part of true Islam.

    Also, he was the pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ for some 35 years. That's pretty devout for somebody not a Christian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by commiecat View Post
    I'm not particularly fond of any outspoken religious activists including Robertson and Wright, but how is it justified that Wright appears to be mentioned as a Muslim cleric and "not a Christian"? The only thing I can find is a single article, without citations, claiming that years ago he used to be in the Nation of Islam which itself isn't really a part of true Islam.

    Also, he was the pastor of the Trinity United Church of Christ for some 35 years. That's pretty devout for somebody not a Christian.
    I have not mentioned him to be a muslim cleric so I am not sure you are actually saying anything by that statement. What I am saying is that Wright's statements and some muslim cleric's statements are brushed off as freedom of speech where wen Pat says something, he gets criticized much more heavily.
    As to the devoutness of Wright. Clearly you do not understand the tenants of Christianity nor does he. For all of his "education" he clearly can't interpret the Bible or else he would know it is a sin to take the Lord's name in vain. Yet he did it multiple times and in the pulpit of all places. He is only highly regarded in the militant theologian circles and most likely was given his degrees, not awarded them based on merit. He certainly is not regarded as an intelligent man outside of his own circles.
    The good news for him is that I am sure God has a very special place reserved in Hell for him and I say this with no apology. I will not be the one judging him after he dies, but I know what the Bible says about men like him. As for his supposed church, God commands Christians to love ALL people and to spread the love of Jesus Christ to ALL PEOPLE, not push a predominately militant agenda. The trinity church is certainly not "Of Christ" there website and mission demonstrates that. He tells the poor of Chicago that someone else is to blame for their state and to hate them because God hates them too. Yet, he lives in a multi-million dollar home in a white neighborhood. As far as I am concerned he is as dangerous and malicious as any terrorist of any faith and I wish he were in a foreign country being hunted rather than living here and spreading hatred. To me he is lower than a rabid animal. A few months in Abu Ghraib would have done him a lot of good.
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    That is the most compassionate and well thought out rant i have ever read. Bravo Sir! BRAVO!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by treydampier View Post
    I have not mentioned him to be a muslim cleric so I am not sure you are actually saying anything by that statement. What I am saying is that Wright's statements and some muslim cleric's statements are brushed off as freedom of speech where wen Pat says something, he gets criticized much more heavily.
    As to the devoutness of Wright. Clearly you do not understand the tenants of Christianity nor does he. For all of his "education" he clearly can't interpret the Bible or else he would know it is a sin to take the Lord's name in vain. Yet he did it multiple times and in the pulpit of all places. He is only highly regarded in the militant theologian circles and most likely was given his degrees, not awarded them based on merit. He certainly is not regarded as an intelligent man outside of his own circles.
    The good news for him is that I am sure God has a very special place reserved in Hell for him and I say this with no apology. I will not be the one judging him after he dies, but I know what the Bible says about men like him. As for his supposed church, God commands Christians to love ALL people and to spread the love of Jesus Christ to ALL PEOPLE, not push a predominately militant agenda. The trinity church is certainly not "Of Christ" there website and mission demonstrates that. He tells the poor of Chicago that someone else is to blame for their state and to hate them because God hates them too. Yet, he lives in a multi-million dollar home in a white neighborhood. As far as I am concerned he is as dangerous and malicious as any terrorist of any faith and I wish he were in a foreign country being hunted rather than living here and spreading hatred. To me he is lower than a rabid animal. A few months in Abu Ghraib would have done him a lot of good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treydampier View Post
    I have not mentioned him to be a muslim cleric so I am not sure you are actually saying anything by that statement. What I am saying is that Wright's statements and some muslim cleric's statements are brushed off as freedom of speech where wen Pat says something, he gets criticized much more heavily.
    I believe most people with left leanings in this thread have agreed that what Pat said is protected under the first amendment. So is any speech criticizing Pat or Wright. If you ask me they're both idiots.

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    Trey, you say in your sig or whatever it is called... that you are from 'cotton country'. Well so am I. I am not sure how old you are but I was growing up in a time when water fountains were labeled white and colored. When restrooms were "White" for male and a separate restroom for "white" females. One for "Colored". Not for male and female if it was for the colored ... but one just for the skin color male and female.

    When a restaurant might have a picnic table out in the back by the garbage cans where black people ... Negroes... could eat... or they might not allow them at all. If they did, and they were kind, they might have a carport type awning over the table to keep them out of the sun or the rain.

    Where a college educated black man would have to be subservient to an uneducated white man because obviously the white man was superior. That is the way cotton country was when I was growing up. Reverend Wright being older than I am remembers 14 year old Emmet Till being beaten to death for whistling at a white women.

    Remember when the KKK member blew up the church in Birmingham and killed those four little girls? In case you don't here is an article on it. How about the hundreds of lynchings over the years of negroes ?.. but these are extreme cases.

    The day to day life of being called the N-word. Of having to tell your children that they could not go to the movie or eat at the restaurant because of the color of their skin and you have a problem with Reverend Wright being angry ?

    Maybe he can't be Christian enough to forgive 'whitey' for all of the discrimination ...can you be Christian enough to forgive Reverend Wright for his anger ? Just curious ?
    Be careful how you treat people on your way up, you may meet them again on your way back down.

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