Thread: E-cigarettes

Originally Posted by stev

Making your own liquid is really straight forward too cosperryan, even more so if your going full VG, you can get nicotine in VG and it lasts for a long time as depending on the strength liquid your making you are only using small quantities and the VG on its own is pretty cheap. the only pg that i use is flavour concentrate, pretty hard to find it in VG sometimes but it is a really small amount of the mix.

True. I have definitely thought about it a few times. Right now I am still trying to figure out what flavors I really like and which ones I don't like. Last week I had some skull and crossbones by Vigilante. I told the lady at the shop I wanted to get something whacky flavored. She said it was a bourbon flavor and it is not. Its of a sweet rum and vanilla flavor. Its good, like really really good, but not whiskey or bourbon which is a very elusive flavor apparently when it comes to high quality juice.

Here in the UK new vendors are popping up all over and bringing there own flavours ect, some are really fantastic but i find the descriptions on websites lacking for example: a mix of 5 berries.. what berries ffs? i like rasberry but not so much cranberry, more info please!!. If you ever do decide to start making your own juice, gimme a shout if you have any questions.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

I suspect as they do more study they will find the E types are better than regular cigarettes but still not good for you.

They way I look at it smoking is like russian roulette so once you put the gun down your longevity increases right away. Of course you can't do anything about all the poison that is in the makeup of your body from all the years of smoking however stopping can only be good for you as opposed to continuing.

Yup that's what I think. Still not good for you. Like you I'm pretty confident that further study will show that E-cigs., while not being as harmful, are still damaging to the body. We're built to breath air. And I think that's it. I stopped cigarettes years ago, as well as Copenhaven snuff. Being hopelessly addicted to them didn't stop rational thought processes. In other words, I knew that I couldn't live my life the way I wanted to and continue participating in the addiction. I still smoke a pipe (maybe 5 times a week after dinner with a cup of tea) and a weekly cigar. (On Sunday) For some reason, maybe its because the pipe and cigar aren't inhaled, I can control the use of a pipe or cigar. Not so cigarettes and Copenhaven. They are like a light switch. Its on or off. Out of control use or nothing.

Hello all,

I'm quite experienced in e-cigarettes and the like, so if you're interested in information, suggestions on flavors or questions on why your mod is leaking like a geyser; you know who to PM.

Been using vape equipment in one form or another for 2 years and I have seen all the hyped, as well as the buried in journals, research from both sides of the argument. It's something that even people in the science community, who are supposed to only look at facts, are fairly biased on. At the end of the day, it's what you enjoy and what risks you are willing to take. I enjoy my flavors and the people I interact with on my sunday vape errands. Is it completely harmless? Probably not, but the water I drink and bathe in has radium in it.

Chemical flavorings found in e-cigarettes linked to lung disease | Harvard Gazette

If your aware of the risks, I believe that we are all adults and can make informed decisions....
I dont see what the problems is. If its not ecigs, it will be outlawing Sunday softball games because somebody "might" twist an ankle...

Its a dangerous world we live in....
Just my 2
-K

Originally Posted by Ised8em

Chemical flavorings found in e-cigarettes linked to lung disease | Harvard Gazette

If your aware of the risks, I believe that we are all adults and can make informed decisions....
I dont see what the problems is. If its not ecigs, it will be outlawing Sunday softball games because somebody "might" twist an ankle...

Its a dangerous world we live in....
Just my 2
-K

I agree completely. Unfortunately, many ecig users have known this issue for a few years, yet it persists in flavorings. For those interested, the VaporShark company tests all of the liquids they sell for the presence of those chemicals. However, more research is not a bad thing. Continually improving a method to achieve something is probably why we're here, it's just happens to be razors...

The chemical Diacetyl is the culprit and what the article previously posted was targeting as a dangerous substance in some ecig flavors. This is old news in the ecig industry as it was initially used as a flavoring for certain butterscotch e-liquids or to impart a buttery flavor to certain e-liquid blends. Lets put things in perspective. Diacetyl is a by product of natural fermentation. It exists in buttermilk most beers especially english style ales, IPA's and it is what gives Chardonnay its buttery taste and is present also in the coffee roasting process. Its fairly ubiquitous in our foods both naturally and as an additive. No big deal if ingested as its fairly harmless. Problems arise when its burned as it breaks down into some fairly nasty compounds when heated above a certain temperature. Thus the concern. Now even at the time when those e-liquids where found to contain some Diacetyl it was still 100 times less what is commonly present in tobacco smoke. Should one be concerned? Absolutely. I don't like it when news articles focus on a thing and trump it up to the ignorant masses as if it came from outer space to kill us and not put it into Perspective! Media loves to demonize a thing without revealing the complete nature of it. Its a tool most often used to further a political agenda.

I must admit that I didn't read the article completely because I already knew two things about it. 1) Diacetyl is harmful, especially if we're heating it up in vapor form and inhaling it 2) The majority of media sensationalizes every bit of information they get their hands on. That's why you see "dooms-day" reports on the weather channel's websites to drive up site visits, the owner/boss of the website even admitted to this fact.

The issues with "popcorn lung" are documented and called that because it is prevalent in popcorn "topping". Never heard of anyone getting cancer from popcorn, until the media blows something up tomorrow or next week. What isn't focused on in the current media climate is the actions taken by many e-liquid manufacturers working hard to find flavors that do not contain these chemicals and cutting into their profits to provide a safer product. What's worse, is flavoring companies that say that aren't found in a certain flavorings and testing later shows that it does.

Well, I have been off this forum for a few months. You know how it is, life happens and what not. Anyways. Since my first post in this thread, I have done what I did with straight razors. At first I did it as a way to save money (also for better health on the e-cigarette side). Well we all know how that goes. Now I have 7 different "mods" and build all my own coils and what not. Even in the process of building my own e-cig mod. I just like to tinker. Its an addiction. And SWMBO is definitely not happy about it as it cost just as much if not more as my straight razor addiction costs. Another monotonous task turned into a hobby.

Yes as with all things. The practical approach is when you get involved in a thing for some benefit or to augment a behavior. If you leave it at that than the initial reason to do it is maintained, for example straight razor shaving because you hate disposables and if kept at the bare essentials will in fact save you money. Same could be said for Vaping or anything else along the lines of replacing a costly behavior with something more efficient or supposedly better for you. The problem arises when this new activity becomes a source of enjoyment and intrigue. We all know that it quickly escalates into "enthusiast" territory in which resides an industry of some sort ready to fulfill your every need. That's where "practical use be damned" comes to play and your in a full blown hobby $$$.