Thread: The Butchered Blade

Nice job on that Blade and scales Joseph. Personally never had one break bluing either. Quite the drag..

Originally Posted by MikeB52

Nice job on that Blade and scales Joseph. Personally never had one break bluing either. Quite the drag..

That only leaves one culprit : The Vinegar

Originally Posted by JOB15

A few weeks ago I blued a W&B full hollow and it cracked. If you recall.
I have 4 of these full hollows in bad condition.

Today I moved onto number 2. Sanded it, 80 grit Dremel, warm vinegar, Blued it, oiled it.

Sitting here about 2 hours since the bluing watching UFC (Illegally downloaded shh) and i keep hearing a ping noise, like metal touching metal.
Checked out my resting blade and its cracked , split. Whilst typing this it has pinged two more times .

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You are saying that it is cracking 2 hours after the bluing? It should be stabilized in temp by then.

I would be more worried about heating and stress caused by using a dremel on a full hollow.

After 2 hours the only thing that comes to mind is that there was existing cracks and the vinagar and/or bluing mixture was not cleaned out from the crack after and continued to work.

Originally Posted by 32t

You are saying that it is cracking 2 hours after the bluing? It should be stabilized in temp by then.

I would be more worried about heating and stress caused by using a dremel on a full hollow.

After 2 hours the only thing that comes to mind is that there was existing cracks and the vinagar and/or bluing mixture was not cleaned out from the crack after and continued to work.

No previouse cracks... I could hear the blade cracking *pinging* multiple times hours after.

It's one for the scientists

Originally Posted by JOB15

No previouse cracks... I could hear the blade cracking *pinging* multiple times hours after.

It's one for the scientists

I am not a scientist and will stop after this.

Pinging etc. would be caused by movement. Temperature change would be my first thought but expansion of rust in a crack could behave similar to ice cracking stone.

Wow Joseph, perhaps you should not blue one & see what happens & if you use a Dremel, see what happens. When I used a Dremel on a blade, I was right there at my sink so the blade never got hot & if it even started to try to get warm, I would turn the faucet on & cool it down even though it wasn't hot yet. In my garage, I have a jar full of water there for when I grind on a blade with my bench grinder like when I put the French point on my Wosty. Have you ever seen this blog of mine?

http://straightrazorpalace.com/membe...me-polish.html

I'm not saying you're doing anything wrong, I'm just wondering what is going on. Before I ever used my Dremel on a good blade, I practiced with a junk blade & I did get one slightly hot but it cooled down rather quickly. That wasn't the right way for me to do it anyway which is why I do it at the sink & if not, I have water nearby. I'm sure while you were using your Dremel, you were cooling your blade. It might be if you got the blades from the same person, they may have had them stored near something like chemicals or something.

I acquired what I thought was a steal of a blade, a fairly beat up W&B wedge. It satisfied 2 of 3 things I like/looking for in my new razors. A wedge and a barber's notch. The horn scales looked a little beat up, but I've seen you guys deal with worse! Unfortunately, when I was having a significant issue honing I felt something was off. I took a better look like I should have in the first place and noticed that the entire length of the blade seems twisted and slightly bent in the tang. I realize now it's outside of my capabilities at the moment. I have exactly a hand drill, hones and screwdrivers in my apartment. Take a gander at this.

Originally Posted by dinnermint

I acquired what I thought was a steal of a blade, a fairly beat up W&B wedge. It satisfied 2 of 3 things I like/looking for in my new razors. A wedge and a barber's notch. The horn scales looked a little beat up, but I've seen you guys deal with worse! Unfortunately, when I was having a significant issue honing I felt something was off. I took a better look like I should have in the first place and noticed that the entire length of the blade seems twisted and slightly bent in the tang. I realize now it's outside of my capabilities at the moment. I have exactly a hand drill, hones and screwdrivers in my apartment. Take a gander at this.

The notch on the blade is quite crooked, and that throws your eye off for sure, it is also common. Send that old girl out for a honing. It get super tough trying to asses a blade from pictures. I have no idea who is close to you to help you work through this. Adding your location would be helpful.

Welcome to the group dinnermint! Hope you have a good time here. Looking at pic 3, it appears there is a slight twist or the tang is bent slightly. I wasn't going by the barbers notch either. I have some that have that unusual angular grind of a barbers notch.

RezDog, the notch looks totally off, but I was hoping to show that with the second picture showing the spine. But, the top of the notch lines up with widest part (where one would see hone wear). So the length of the engraved planes of the wedge look like different lengths. Almost like it was warped then attempted to be fixed with grinding. Now that I try to explain it with less than stellar pictures, I just want to ship it around to make it easier! And location has been added, still trying to get my profile and such set up. It's been about 14 years since I last frequented a forum, hehe

Engine, thanks for the warm welcome!