Thread: Whats your opinion on automatic weapons?

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Again you have proved my point that you cannot engage in this discussion with Logic and Facts, your utter naiveté seriously scares me, more than a nutjob with a AR-15..


To counter your point, "I hear people talking about how easy it is to buy drugs and how cheap they are now" ... which "proves my point" Wow


BTW in comparison drugs have actually gone up in quality and down in price over the last 30 years, one of the few commercial products to do so

My wife is a high school teacher. She told me just today that a lot of her students are only interested in going to school to make contact with girls to screw and to buy and sell drugs.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

My wife is a high school teacher. She told me just today that a lot of her students are only interested in going to school to make contact with girls to screw and to buy and sell drugs.

and people blame guns and violence for whats wrong with society :S

Originally Posted by Crotalus

My wife is a high school teacher. She told me just today that a lot of her students are only interested in going to school to make contact with girls to screw and to buy and sell drugs.

OK, so what has changed in 45 years?

Bob

Originally Posted by BobH

OK, so what has changed in 45 years?

Bob

In the late 60's, there were two girls putting out in my class that had 70 or so kids in it. Nowadays there are probably only two girls in a class that aren't putting out and class sizes are probably 5 times what they were when I was in school.

For our friends in the UK that think that more laws and less guns will make a safer society, I would ask them to investigate Mexico, Central, and S America and their VERY restrictive gun and dope laws. Those laws appear to be working very well I'd say..... NOT!

Last numbers I heard for the running death toll in the border dope war is pretty close to what the US had killed in over 15 years of the SE Asia war games.

I have a number of good friends of Mexican and Salvadoran ancestry that have legally immigrated to the states. I also have "gringo" friends that own property in in and around San Miguel de Allende, Mexico. My American friends will NOT drive down there any more. My Mexican friends just don't go back to visit because it is too damn dangerous.

I live in N TX and the cartels do reach up here. So far the cartel violence in this area has been pretty much directed at each other.

As for the BS about the guns coming from the US, that is a load of crap for the most part (except for what our present regime provided in their FAST AND FURIOUS debacle). I say that because the full auto stuff those guys are using is bought on the underground market or from international arms suppliers willing to sell to anyone with the $$. Those dopers have the $$ to buy about anything their hearts desire and there is some HEAVY stuff running around down there (most of it from the Communist bloc or stolen/purchased from their own armies) that is simply NOT available through normal purchase here in the states.

Originally Posted by BobH

OK, so what has changed in 45 years?

Bob

No corporal punishment. No prayer in school. Education geared to pass the state tests instead of learning the 3 R's. No pledge of allegiance. Touchy feely course curriculum. Passing students that still can't read just to get rid of them. Passing kids on compassionate grounds instead achievement.

In short, the liberals are in control.

Originally Posted by Crotalus

No corporal punishment. No prayer in school. Education geared to pass the state tests instead of learning the 3 R's. No pledge of allegiance. Touchy feely course curriculum. Passing students that still can't read just to get rid of them. Passing kids on compassionate grounds instead achievement.

In short, the liberals are in control.

Liberals want better education with less testing. It is liberals that tru to allow education to be that rather than jumping through hoops.this is a quote from a liberal political party website "testing should be reduced to a necessary minimum in order to remove unnecessary pressure on pupils and staff and to reduce the current waste of time and resources on such testing; ". I agree with corperal punishment though, prayer should be reinstated not to enforce religion but to enforce compliance with the rules. Kids don't pledge allegiance to anymore? They do in WA state.

SWEET!

Originally Posted by Wullie

SWEET!

Wullie --
I love this! Like most wise statements, it's directly to the point.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

I am sat here, thinking ... AMERICA NEEDS MORE TEA! I can't help myself sorry lol.
Having been to USA, being about to marry an American, and having american friends, and living in what some would call "the hood" in the USA. I don't see why
the crime rates are so different. I mean you guys have an attitude that differs from Brits, not bad (I actually like it), bolder, but not murderous or anything that I think would cause a huge discrepency in crime rates. Do you have any ideas on why those rates are so different. It is easy for somebody from a gun prohibition state to say it's guns. It's also easy to say it isn't guns. I just wonder what you think the reason is?

All I can say is, thank the powers that be you blokes have less guns. I'd hate to imagine the mayhem that would be caused at a football game! The spectator violence is already pretty grim I've heard. And knife crime is a serious problem too by all accounts. I guess if they finally manage to get the crims to stop carrying knives you blokes will have to ban cricket as well. Can't have just anyone owning a cricket bat to bludgeon people with afterall.

Originally Posted by thebigspendur

Most criminals aren't very smart (that's why the prisons are bursting at the seams) and they don't think too good. They take the easiest way and copy what other criminals do which seems to work until it doesn't work anymore. Over the years the types of armament they choose to carry has increased not because they just decide to carry a revolver instead of a baseball club or a shotgun instead of a pistol but because they act like the rest of us. They perceive a threat to their lives and activities and meet the treat by going upstream. That's just the way it is.

Just think for a moment, if a typical thug accosts you in the street demanding your wallet and he knows you are unarmed he's gonna be cool because he is in control and has nothing to worry about and will get what he wants and leave because if he shoots you the chances are increased he will get caught and spend more time in prison. If he accosts you and he knows you may be armed the chances are he will be very uncool and maybe shoot first and at the least relieve you of your gun. You say no that won't happen? What you gonna do draw on a guy who already has a bead on you?

I'm not making a value judgement here and of course the guy who accosts you may be a nut who just shoots you dead for fun, you never know but the odds are in your favor.

Just remember there are 2 sides to everything and everything can be spun to say what you want it to say true or not.

I'm a firm believer in having a sense of situational awareness...Goes well with having a gun too.


Mick

Originally Posted by Crotalus

No corporal punishment. No prayer in school. Education geared to pass the state tests instead of learning the 3 R's. No pledge of allegiance. Touchy feely course curriculum. Passing students that still can't read just to get rid of them. Passing kids on compassionate grounds instead achievement.

In short, the liberals are in control.

Not that, I meant the sex and drugs bit. As to the other stuff, that has changed too here. I am not too keen on the lack of discipline/respect or the idea of just moving kids along but then I am a Liberal. OTH what do I know, I went to HS to keep out of the rain and still only lasted 1 and 1/2 years.

Bob