Thread: Pondering......

The whole firearm issue reminds me of a big forest fire. As it gets bigger it takes on a life of it's own and even creates it's own meteorological conditions. The more guns there are out there the more problems are created by the very numbers of guns. Most people don't really know how many guns of all kinds are floating around. More guns mean more gun thefts and more gun crime and more ease at getting guns for everyone good and bad.

Some foolishly think if everyone was armed bad guys would just go away out of fear. Terrible folly in that reasoning. Bad guys are bad and they aren't going anywhere. They arm themselves to meet the conditions. If they operate in a world where everyone is armed they just get bigger arms and will be more inclined to shoot first and demand later. Remember, in a situation where you are accosted in the street the bad guy already has his gun trained on you and you are already at a big disadvantage. Maybe in a place like Florida after you give the guy what he wants you can just pull out a gun and shoot him in the back and get away with it but in most places you would probably just be relieved of your gun or worse.

Carl you really need to look at Law Enforcement Stats so you get a much clearer picture...

I tried to explain to you after the Colorado shooting that you were using Anti Gun stats even for England and the the Scotland yard stats didn't show the same thing but you refused to acknowledge that the BBC wasn't really accurate and kept showing the same ones over and over...
In fact your words were that the BBC had to use accurate numbers by Government mandate even though you were shown Law Enforcement numbers to the opposite...

The worst part is that you believe that drivel, heck I don't even look at RKBA numbers let alone NRA numbers I know they are massaged to make a point...

Originally Posted by gssixgun

Carl you really need to look at Law Enforcement Stats so you get a much clearer picture...

Glen, your law enforcement stats are skewed, as are the UK's, and every other place in the world.
When you undertake a degree in the UK you are taught one thing that is very important ...
Never believe stats from the people you are criticizing. It is like taking lung cancer stats from Marlborough,
Or revenue stats from China, it is a bad idea. You take stats from a neutral body.
No wonder you think everything is OK if you are looking at the USA law enforcement stats.
I once saw a study that showed how a particular drug treated a particular disease ...
it never once mentioned that it had around an 80% mortality rate!!! It was sponsored
by the pharmaceutical company that made the drug.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

Some chick almost ran me down in a parking lot yesterday. I was FURIOUS, and I mean livid.... Here ... what if she thought I was threatening her life ... and was carrying a gun ... scary.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

Yet, I still feel that they can kill with the greatest of ease, weird huh?

I STILL don't think you should own one.

I am a fiery person, when somebody deserves it, I know I would lose it.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

Well I am well trained in self defense. I just inherited a weird "lose it" thing. .

You - from everything you post - aren't responsible enough to own a gun and hence, I can see why you shouldn't own a gun and why you think others shouldn't own one either!

With your mindset I can see why.

Originally Posted by earcutter

You - from everything you post - aren't responsible enough to own a gun and hence, I can see why you shouldn't own a gun and why you think others shouldn't own one either!

With your mindset I can see why.

Responsible is the wrong word, I don't think I'm the right personality to own one. Everybody has moments of pure fury.

Originally Posted by straightrazorheaven

Responsible is the wrong word, I don't think I'm the right personality to own one. Everybody has moments of pure fury.

Yeah I hear you and I don't necessarily want to argue semantics but in my world - I am responsible for my fury hence, I'll stick with responsible.

Originally Posted by earcutter

Yeah I hear you and I don't necessarily want to argue semantics but in my world - I am responsible for my fury hence, I'll stick with responsible.

At least that's what the judge said LOL

The only difference between a Citizen per se, and a subject is "who rules".

See video above.

My reason for wanting a firearm free USA, is because I don't believe allowing citizens the right to carry a potentially deadly weapon is sending the right message. It doesn't really matter that much to me what it is used for, the fact that they are around doesn't instil confidence. Allowing citizens to carry is sending the message "it is OK to use deadly force if needed". Whether or not people think this right, that is the whole reason I believe the amendment needs to be rescinded. The world is a very different place now, the dangers less severe.

If one does not fully comprehend 1776, then how can he be expected to understand "1984"?

Some chick almost ran me down in a parking lot yesterday. I was FURIOUS, and I mean livid. I had my step-daughter and wife with me, she could have hit them. She wasn't looking where she was going. Had I been home in the UK I would have banged hell outta her car until she stopped, then told her she needs to be more careful, look where she is going, do less than 20 mph in a parking lot, and not talk on her phone when she is driving. Here ... what if she thought I was threatening her life ... and was carrying a gun ... scary.

Frankly, if this is your personality to bully and intimidate other women, then I'm not surprised you would like to control the power that others wield. If one were to do this to my wife, I would consider him a bully and a gutless coward.

Originally Posted by Costabro

See video above.



If one does not fully comprehend 1776, then how can he be expected to understand "1984"?






Frankly, if this is your personality to bully and intimidate other women, then I'm not surprised you would like to control the power that others wield. If one were to do this to my wife, I would consider him a bully and a gutless coward.

Yep I'm a gutless coward for thinking somebody doesn't have the right to do all the idiotic things she was doing. Perhaps she should have been looking where she was going, and not almost run my family down. I would hope If your wife does any of the things this chick was doing you would teach her how to drive.

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